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Benjamin Greenwald vs Robert James Fischer
Poughskeepsie 1963  ·  Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Classical Variation (D86)  ·  0-1
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Kibitzer's Corner
Nov-30-04  buscher07: Nice. Very Nice. (29...Bf8)
Jul-07-06  sharkbenjamin: Bobby Fischer is the greatest player ever to live. Wow!
Aug-04-06  S.Brew: 25 Rd5 is a tad reckless?
May-04-07  Gameoverziggy: I wonder if white just missed the back rank threat
Jan-23-08  Resignation Trap: Greenwald was rated 2179 according to the October 1963 rating supplement. He tied for first with Max Cohen in the 1962 US Amateur Championship.

This game, and R Oster vs Fischer, 1963 (from round two in this event) is fully annotated by Fischer in the October 1963 issue of <Chess Life>.

Sep-10-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: Back in 1963, a rating of 2179 was much better than it is today with all the rating inflation. Still, this guy was nowhere close to Fischer's class.
Sep-10-11  sfm: <Back in 1963, a rating of 2179 was much better than it is today with all the rating inflation.> Since all ratings in the world adjust to each other the problem should then be general? I.e., also the highest rated players of today are rated higher than they would be if they'd played with the same strength back then? This is not clear.
You could also point to rating deflation. Put 100 extremely talented young people rated 1600 together in a room, and let them play chess for 10 years. Their average rating will not increase - but they will be much too low rated when they are let out.
Dec-05-11
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  profK: 18.Bb5 has white holding his own very well.
Dec-05-11  King Death: < sfm: You could also point to rating deflation. Put 100 extremely talented young people rated 1600 together in a room, and let them play chess for 10 years. Their average rating will not increase - but they will be much too low rated when they are let out.>

Under the USCF system, that won't be true, because of the bonus points awarded in the system. Even though they did away with the bonus system a long time ago once a player got above (I think) 2100, you'd still have inflation. The average rating of this pool would probably be over 1600 after the very first event held and slowly go up. Even under the FIDE usage of the system, this happened.


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