chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Boris Spassky vs Robert James Fischer
Second Piatigorsky Cup (1966), Santa Monica, CA USA, rd 8, Jul-28
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Classical Variation (D86)  ·  1-0
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 38 times; par: 86 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 55 more Spassky/Fischer games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Premium members can see a list of all games that they have seen recently at their Game History Page.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 9 OF 9 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Feb-11-12  drukenknight: >>The number of games that Petrosian played in in the 1960's is not some huge amount more than what Fischer played. Fischer played plenty of chessgames in the 1960's, including Santa Monica 1966 where he finished well ahead of Petrosian

Okay that is very true, but let's face it, having Bobby Fischer as your pt man for the western hemisphere is like having Jeff George. On paper he looks great but he winds up having lapses in big moments. I actually saw Jeff George just refuse to fall on a fumble here in Wash DC.

In Fischer's case many times on the great stage when he was at a big moment he messed up and lost it. Do we have to make a list?

62 Curacao
The Match w/ Reshevsky
62 Botvinnik game, not a blow up but he blows the endgame 66 This game, didnt he run off after Spassky showed him some moves? 67 Sousza
[long period of nothing]
72 1st match game w/ Spassky

This is a long list of clinch ups in the big time. A Russian player like this would never get out of first round round. They got 10 other guys who can memorize openings and play tournament chess for two weeks straight. Fischer is all AMerican chess had so they had to coddle him. He doesnt even have to qualify for the interzonal he's so fragile...

Feb-11-12  RookFile: I'll just make one point, which is that a tie with Reshevsky in their match, in games played, exceeded pre-match expectations of almost all the experts. Reshevsky was built to play matches - he won with white and drew with black. Kasparov credits this experience with taking Fischer to the next level. Not a bad result for a teenager.
Feb-11-12  Chessmaster9001: Interesting endgame. Textbook example of advantage of bishop vs knight in an open position.
Jan-10-13  kjr63: Wow, Fischer plays like a lunatic.
Dec-19-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  zydeco: Spassky's notes to the game:

Spassky had won a 1959 game with the sharp 12.f4. He was sure that Fischer had an improvement ready and switched to 12.Qe1.

Spassky suggests 12.....Qa5 as a response.

Fischer thought he should have played 16....Bf8. Spassky planned to continue 16.g4.

If 22....gxf5 23.Nxf5 Qf6 then 24.Qe3. Or if 23....exd3 24.Qg3+ mates.

On move 24, Spassky comments, "Fischer is defending in a precise manner." If instead 24.....Bxe4 25.Nxe4 Qxf5 26.Nf6+ Kg7 27.Rd7+ Kxf6 28.Qh4+ with a mating net.

If 30....Kh7 31.Rxf8 Qxf8 32.h4 and Spassky comments that "white's threats would continue to grow."

Spassky thought Fischer's best chance to draw was 33....bxc5. Fischer didn't like the possibility of 34.Rc1, but Spassky gives the line 34....c4 35.Rc3 Re6 36.Bf3 Kf6 37.Kf2 g5 and black is fighting.

Spassky suggests improvements with 39.Bd5 instead of 39.Ke3; 39....Nd6 instead of g5; 40....Nd6 instead of 40....Nh6.

Mar-28-15  Howard: So, once the queens came off, was it a win for Spassky ?! Still don't have a computer of my own yet....
Apr-10-15  A.T PhoneHome: It's pointless to compare, say, the best players between 1955-1970 to those between 2000-2015.

While the chess theory has expanded enormously, it doesn't mean that the general level of understanding has increased. The best of 1955-1970 were the best in implementing what knowledge they had back then and the best of 2000-2015 were/are the best in implementing what knowledge they had then or have now.

Like hop to year 2165. Magnus Carlsen is the best player today (2015) but during that 150 years, mistakes will be found in his play. Can we say he is a weak player or that he lacks in understanding? No, because we cannot infer anything regarding 2165 from his 2015 results.

Apr-10-15  Petrosianic: <So, once the queens came off, was it a win for Spassky ?!>

Yes, I think 32...Q-B4 was the point of no return.

Apr-10-15  Howard: A suggestion to A.T. Phone Home...

How about looking at Spassky--Tal, 1958
from the Soviet championship.

Granted, Spassky lost that game but he damn well should have won it. In fact....Kasparov includes it in his MGP but it's in the SPASSKY volume (not the Tal one).

It's well-worth checking out.

Apr-10-15  A.T PhoneHome: Thanks, I'll have a look now instead of replying "Going through Boris Spassky's 400 Best Games yada yada". :P

Appreciated <Howard>!

Apr-11-15  Howard: If 32...Q-B4 (still love descriptive notation !) was the "point of no return", how about some computer-generated proof ?

Are you reading this, Avlerkupp ?!

Apr-11-15  A.T PhoneHome: <Howard> I think that Petrosianic is right because, as explained in one above comment, Bishop is usually better than Knight in open endgames like this.

So that's why Fischer made a mistake when he traded down to Bishop vs. Knight endgame.

Apr-11-15  Howard: Yes, but the paucity of pawns here (only three on each side) would have made the win difficult.

As I recall, Spassky's 37.Ke3 was branded a mistake by both Mednis and Mueller. The latter's book on Fischer, by the way, claims that shortly later, Fischer missed a draw.

So.....once the queens came off, was it a win for Spassky assuming best play ?!

Apr-11-15  A.T PhoneHome: Endgames have always been total Hebrew for me. Makes me appreciate strong endgame players even more for that reason.
Apr-13-15  Howard: Someday I'll take a closer look at this endgame. Unless AvlerKupp wants to warm up his computer...
Jan-04-17  The Boomerang: "The ratings are not a true indicator of strength."

Then what are they an indicator of?

Jan-04-17  Absentee: <The Boomerang: "The ratings are not a true indicator of strength."

Then what are they an indicator of?>

Of performance within a given player pool.

Jan-04-17  Petrosianic: And recent performance at that. You could play at the 1830 level for 20 years, have one bad tournament, could cancel all that out and drop you into the 1700's. It's HEAVILY weighted towards recent performance.
Mar-15-17  Saniyat24: absolutely loved Spassky's 21st, 22nd and 47th move...!
Jun-22-18  Justin796: Ratings are relative strength duh.
Jun-22-18  ewan14: 1967 was not a chess clinch up in the big time
Fischer was on course to qualify for the Candidates matches eg he had beaten Stein and drawn with Korchnoi
Jun-11-19  Howard: According to Chess Monthly (based out of London) a couple years ago, 28.Nh5! would have been a much better move.
Jun-11-19  woldsmandriffield: Things probably start sliding from move 25 - the position is THAT sharp.


click for larger view

Black has got to do something about 7th rank incursions and 25..Bc6!! appears the best way to achieve this with ideas like ..Nc4 & ..b5, keeping open the possibility of ..Qf6.

Fischer gets a break on move 28 (28 Nh5! as spotted by Chess Monthly).

Accepting that 33..bxc5 was a better practical try, the move that looks very ugly is 39..g5 when Spassky's 40 h5 starts sounding the death knell.

39..Nh6! is a much tougher defense. The point is that after 40 Kf4 Nf5 41 h5 g5+ 42 Kf3 Nh6 we get this position:


click for larger view

compared with the game (after 41 Kd3):


click for larger view

Spassky's King is on f3 instead of d3 and this makes all the difference since it enables Fisher to use the c-pawn to draw: eg 43 Ke3 Ke5 44 Kd3 c4+ or 43 Bb7 c4 44 Ke3 Ke5 45 Ba6 Nf5+ 46 Kd2 Kd4

Jun-19-19  Howard: Mueller stated in his book on Fischer's games that Fischer actually had a draw near the end of the game.

But, if Spassky had not lost time with his king around the 37th move, he might have had a forced win.

Sep-26-19  Everett: <Howard> so have you been studying yourself, or still depending on others for answers?
Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 9)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 9 OF 9 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
grunfeld defense
by auldoxon
Chess Informant Best Games 1
by koinonia
zz30_B:N - Realise their magic relationship
by whiteshark
Gruenfeld Games
by Zhbugnoimt
Good Bishop vs Bad Knight
from Positional Chess Handbook I by CoachTatiana
Good Bishop vs Bad Knight
from Positional Chess Handbook I by Del ToRo
World Champions
by clifton
Positional Chess Handbook
by wienke7
Games by Fisher
by tkrunner
Instructive chess endgames I
by wwall
Game 51
from How to Beat Bobby Fischer (Mednis) by Qindarka
Chapter 2 - To move: white Last move: 34... bc5
from Positional Chess Handbook by rshyamk
Good Bishop vs Bad Knight
from Positional Chess Handbook I by howardb86
0ZeR0's Favorite Games Volume 4
by 0ZeR0
Second Piatigorsky Cup 1966
by matey
Good Bishop vs Bad Knight
from Positional Chess Handbook I by vantheanh
Games by Fisher
by gothic
Favorite Games by Cclass
by Cclass
A/a 018
from 81a ZOOM 001 SUBMODELS A-H by whiteshark
Second Piatigorsky Cup 1966
by nakul1964
plus 59 more collections (not shown)


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC