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|Dec-07-12|| ||Gottschalk: If 94 Bg2 Nc4check.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||5hrsolver: wow!! seeing this game for the first time. Browne had fischer on the ropes here but he survived. I wonder who offered the draw.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||SugarDom: Actually saw the movie, featuring Jack Black. Funny!|
|Dec-07-12|| ||Abdel Irada: I was aghast to see Fischer playing the Alekhine, which I don't believe was ever part of his characteristic repertoire.|
The final position in the endgame, however, made me chuckle. It reminds me a great deal of an ending I played (from the Black side) against a 2175 in the 1988 Santa Cruz Open.
By one of those ironic twists that do seem to arise with unexpected frequency, this game saw me pitted against a fellow local, who held a one-zero positive score against me in tournament games to date, the other having been a French in which I chickened out of a queen sac which later proved a probable winner (although the position was complex enough that the controversy was never fully resolved), preferring instead to blunder a rook with check and lose immediately.
In this game (also an Alekhine), I had been thoroughly outplayed and was two pawns to the bad. But I surprised my opponent by exchanging down into a minor-piece ending — this because I foresaw the resulting position, in which my knight and king (the latter placed on c6, the only square from which it could manage this feat) could hold off the bishop and two pawns.
The game went on for over five hours because my opponent couldn't believe he'd allowed a draw; he even sacced a pawn at the optimum moment to entice my king out of his remaining pawn's way and nearly corral my knight. But, as in this game, he ultimately had to bow to the fates: I had just enough mobility left, and just enough control of the path to the queening square, that he abandoned his quest for zugzwang and accepted the draw offer I'd made as I moved my king to c6 some fifty-two moves earlier. He then stood up and shook hands like a gentleman, but the curse in his eye would have daunted the Ancient Mariner.
I wonder if Browne felt the same sense of frustration here.
|Dec-07-12|| ||Shams: <Abdel> Not part of his repertoire, no, but I'm sure you remember this legendary game:|
Spassky vs Fischer, 1972
|Dec-07-12|| ||Eggman: I like the pun for this Game of the Day. Call me a curmudgeon, but the offerings lately have been largely substandard, I must say. The last year or so it's like someone has gone through the database, found a player named, say, Haast, thought of the pun "Haast Makes Waste", and then looked for a game that would sufficiently suit that pun. It's gotten a little tiresome. In the past many of the puns were real works of art.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <Eggman: I like the pun for this Game of the Day. Call me a curmudgeon, but the offerings lately have been largely substandard, I must say.>|
I am more of a curmudgeon on that point. I think they've been bad for a long time. To be fair, having to come up with one every day can't be easy. And even if "many" were works of art, there were far more that weren't. I sort of wonder if they should try one pun a week and let the other 6 just be untitled.
<The last year or so it's like someone has gone through the database, found a player named, say, Haast, thought of the pun "Haast Makes Waste", and then looked for a game that would sufficiently suit that pun. It's gotten a little tiresome. In the past many of the puns were real works of art.>
I have also suspected the same thing about searched out puns, and think it's usually pretty obvious when that was the methodology. In the user nominated 20 puns of a few years back, I thought maybe 3 were remotely interesting. "Men Without a Country" was genius. The rest were what really makes a bad pun-being obvious. Some topical news reference, a literary reference, a song title, such things are interesting. Finding a player named Kavalek and creating the pun "Kavalanche"? Really, now, that's one of the 20 best the membership can come up with?* Okay, back to being a curmudgeon.
* I really like the person who submitted that pun, and have typed out/deleted similar posts a number of times in the past, but I guess they'll get over me not liking their pun.
|Dec-07-12|| ||JonathanJ: Someone explain the pun please.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||Abdel Irada: <Shams: <Abdel> Not part of his repertoire, no, but I'm sure you remember this legendary game:|
Spassky vs Fischer, 1972>
I do indeed. That's exactly why I was aghast, because I also remembered that he subsequently described his playing the Alekhine in the game you cited as essentially an "accident."
(In fact, if the Spassky game is ever picked as GOTD, maybe it should be titled "An Accidental Alekhine?")
|Dec-07-12|| ||Llawdogg: Regarding the pun, D is for Defense. Fischer played tenacious defense in this game. It's a saying in sports. It is also the name of a comedic band made up of Jack Black and Kyle Gass.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||kevin86: Fischer gains the draw through tenacious play.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||drnooo: seems like a simple win for rook h 7, hardly tough to see, perhaps looming clock problems for Browne???|
|Dec-07-12|| ||karnak64: I confess to not having seen this game before today. Heckuva contest. Glad I now have played it out.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||TheFocus: Browne deeply annotates this game in his new autobiography <The Stress of Chess>. I played through the notes last weekend.|
|Dec-07-12|| ||RookFile: I'm not sure if I've ever played through a better defensive effort than this game.|
|Dec-08-12|| ||weisyschwarz: Funny how such a "lousy" pun like "Haast Makes Waste" is remembered days after it was posted. In that game, I think it was exactly what she did.|
|Mar-11-13|| ||Fusilli: <RookFile: I'm not sure if I've ever played through a better defensive effort than this game.> I am wondering the same thing.|
|Jan-26-15|| ||Conrad93: Fischer left the chess world just when the competition was growing stronger.|
What a coward. Karpov was too solid of a defender. Fischer would have stood no chance.
Anyways, nice game.
|Jan-26-15|| ||Conrad93: White is still better after 51. Kd5.
I don't get how this is a dead draw.
|Jan-26-15|| ||disasterion: <Conrad93: White is still better after 51. Kd5. I don't get how this is a dead draw.>|
In the final position it's a clear draw: white can't dislodge the knight from e7, so the pawn can't queen without being taken.
Obviously it's not a draw after 51.Kd5, but that can't be what you meant. I suspect 51.Re2, as played, is just as good for white, but Fischer's defence thereafter is outstanding.
|Jan-26-15|| ||disasterion: *51.Ra2, as played. But you get the point.|
|May-08-15|| ||keypusher: <Poisonpawns: There are many stories of Fischer giving odds to IM and GM players.One story that is true that I know of is that Fischer used to allow FM Asa Hoffman to start out with his pawns already on e4 and d4 plus have the first move,and <he never defeated bobby in a blitz game>.Even when he analysed at home and came up with a forced sequence to get an obvious winning position boBBy defended and would win on time.If you live in NYC you can ask Asa yourself at the Marshall chess club.Those old chess guys are cool to talk to about the old days,many many stories especially in NYC.>|
The highlighted portion, at least, is not true.
A Hoffmann vs Fischer, 1963
|Jun-26-15|| ||jerseybob: Keypusher: <The highlighted portion, at least, is not true. >
Right. If I recall from Asa's book, which he sold me in person at the Manhattan CC back in '99, Fischer used to give huge time odds, but not what Poisonpawns describes.|
|Mar-04-16|| ||peterh99: Where did Fischer first go wrong?|
|Sep-03-16|| ||zanzibar: Browne discusses this game here:
(Starts about 8:50 in...)
He states the game was adjourned four times.
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