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|Oct-31-08|| ||hedgeh0g: Quite a remarkable mating net spun by Fischer. It seems so logical when he plays his moves and yet I often have difficulty guessing what he's going to play next!|
|Mar-01-09|| ||Maynard5: Eyal is quite correct -- and thanks for the fine analysis. If White was going to play for a win, it would have had to be at a much earlier stage in the game, before the exchange of queens. Kasparov recommends 18. Bf3, instead of 18. Bf4. Then Black cannot reply 18. ... Nxe4 because of 19. Nxe4 Bxe4 20. Bxe4 Qxe4 21. Rf4 Qe5 22. Rh4. However, after 18. Bf3 Nb7 19. Nd5, White appears to retain an edge.|
|Feb-21-10|| ||BearJr: 28.Bxf5+!>>>+4.59(Rybka3). The poor move 28.Rxf5? gives white a smaller edge: +1.34, but this game is about who makes the unlast mistake, not about who has the advantage at some point.|
|Feb-21-10|| ||BearJr: Sorry, now I see that I got the position wrong, forget my last comment about Rxf5+ being better, still 28.Re3(+0.88) was much better than Bxf5+(+0.19)|
|Mar-15-10|| ||notyetagm: <notyetagm: What a tremendous game by Fischer this is.>|
|Mar-22-10|| ||birthtimes: Interestingly, it appears that Larsen had only played one time previously against 2...g6, when he played 3. Nc3 in a draw against Gheorghiu in 1968!|
|Nov-08-10|| ||andoba: what if, move #29 for white, rook e3 rather than check, now two rooks on the exposed king. what are the possibilities here...|
|Dec-22-10|| ||TheFocus: I don't know if it has been pointed out before, but there is a mistake in the move order. 32. Re1 is incorrect. The actual move was 32. Rb1.|
|Dec-30-11|| ||King Death: < Petrosianic: ...But at the same time, Fischer didn't overreach himself. Robert Byrne once commented that Fischer had once admonished him for getting too active with Black too early, telling him that you've got to equalize with Black before looking for anything.>|
Fischer once said this to Edmar Mednis but I never heard of him mentioning it to Byrne too until now.
|Feb-03-12|| ||AlphaMale: Larsen from a 1990 interview with Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam:|
<After Game 2 I knew the match was lost. I should have won Game 2. Ask Piket's father. He's the one who pointed that out really. There was some really bad analysis going around, but Piket's father pointed out exactly how I should have won.>
I'd never seen reference elsewhere to this analysis of Joop Piket but with the power of the Holy Google, I think I've found it:
<28.Re3! Rg8 29.Bxf5+ Kh6 30.Bh3! Rg7 31.b5! axb5 32.cxb5 Bd5 33.Rh4+ Kg5 34.Rd4! Be6 35.Bxe6 fxe6 36.Rxe6>
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So White has won a pawn and has two connected passers.....but is that enough to win? Assuming this is what he was referring to, did Larsen really believe to his dying day that this was a clearly winning position against Fischer? And it's not as if the main line is definitely best. Fritz considers 30...d5 the best way to gain active counterplay.
BTW, the book source is a curious title, <My 160 Memorable Games>, of unknown provenance.
|Feb-03-12|| ||harrylime: < Alfie> You're posting garbage again ! lol |
Just 28.. e6 and black's cool ..
|Feb-04-12|| ||AlphaMale: < harrylime: < Alfie> You're posting garbage again ! lol|
Just 28.. e6 and black's cool ..>
That allows mate in 3. lol
P.S. Please stop following me around.
|Sep-01-12|| ||Paraconti: The problem with Fischer's opponents was they were facing a man who played as if it was the last thing he was going to do on earth.|
|Sep-01-12|| ||harrylime: ^^
Very true. A pre silicon monster.
Hey whatever happened to <AlphaMale> ? Is he/she operating under another name on this site ?! Or did the jungle become just too hot ? lol
|Sep-01-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Not sure, but I believe alphamale was one of the later names of a guy who posted under several names, and was kicked off for continual racist statements.|
|Sep-01-12|| ||harrylime: <Jim> Well if that's true a sad end... |
The 'King of the Jungle' is as libertarian an agent on this planet as you can find. And it's <AlphaMale> is as racially blind as you can find too...
It will eat anything.
|Oct-07-12|| ||Everett: < notyetagm: <notyetagm: What a tremendous game by Fischer this is.>
|Oct-07-12|| ||Everett: <After Game 2 I knew the match was lost. I should have won Game 2. Ask Piket's father. He's the one who pointed that out really. There was some really bad analysis going around, but Piket's father pointed out exactly how I should have won.>|
If Larsen couldn't even remember the analysis of his supposed win after the match, how can one think that he would ever discover it during the pressure of a game?
The funny thing is, when I first saw this game, everyone praised Fischer's placement of his Q in the center of the board, and this is the first time I see that 28.Re3 Larsen would have had a strong advantage. The reason why this is notable is largely because it is another myth perpetuated by the chess story-makers.
Another thing, this may be the latest in a Fischer game vs either Larsen or Taimanov during his fantastic run when he was worse.
|Apr-22-13|| ||FSR: This is a Sicilian, Accelerated Dragon, Maroczy Bind by transposition, not a Symmetrical English.|
|Aug-01-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: FSR is right, a Maroczy Bind if I ever saw one!|
|Aug-01-14|| ||FSR: From after White's 5th move through White's 14th move, play is identical, move for move, with Nunn vs P Van der Sterren, 1974 and Nunn vs Igor Ivanov, 1987, both of which reached the Maroczy Bind through the "normal" Accelerated Dragon move order.|
|Dec-06-15|| ||perfidious: <Everett: < notyetagm: <notyetagm: What a tremendous game by Fischer this is.> Indeed.> |
The shock here is that <neverwillbeagoodplayer> did not shout after every move in typically overwrought fashion.
Or did he?
|Mar-28-17|| ||Dave12: 17..Qe5. Fischer violates one of the very basic principles of chess and puts his queen in a middle board danger. Like saying, Mr Larsen, do your work and don't relly on intuition.|
|Jun-11-17|| ||RookFile: I knows that Fischer won, but if I was shown the position after white's 17th move I would say that white had a crushing advantage. You're right that Fischer saw more deeply into the specifics of the situation.|
|Jun-27-17|| ||Howard: So, did Larsen ever have a won position ?|
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