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|Sep-08-03|| ||ughaibu: It's a suggestion and hoping for your response. Nf6 Bx. |
|Sep-08-03|| ||TheMightyPawn: ...gxf6 |
|Sep-08-03|| ||ughaibu: Rook takes. |
|Sep-08-03|| ||TheMightyPawn: ...Bd4
this may trade queen for 2 rooks .i still fail to see any advantage for white.what do u exactly have in mind?
|Sep-08-03|| ||jreymol: Take a look at 21. Qh5 after 20...hxg5. Black cannot resist the fire from the bishops an the rook in the f-file. |
|Sep-08-03|| ||The Long Diagonal: In my opinion black cannot play 20. - hxg5? due to 21. Bh7+! Kf8 (21. - Kxh7 22. Qh5+ Kg8 23. Qxf7+ Kh8 24. Rf3! threatening Rh3X) 22. Rxf7+! Kxf7 23. Qh5+ Ke7 24. Qg5+ Kf8 (24. - Ke6 25. Bf5X) 25. Rf1+ and black will be crushed. |
|Sep-08-03|| ||ughaibu: Looks convincing, better than my e6. |
|Jan-25-04|| ||Resignation Trap: This game won the Brilliancy Prize for Flohr. The analysis by The Long Diagonal in his last post is correct. |
|Jan-25-04|| ||fred lennox: 9...cxd4 is to be questioned. It would of been a good move if white did 10 Bxe4. This opens up the e file and c file (or leave white with a bad iso on c4) giving black good counterplay. Flohr takes with the pawns and the e and c4 pawns strengthens his position for kingside attack. |
|Jan-25-04|| ||talchess2003: i believe the simplest and most concise win after 20. hxg5 is |
20... hxg5 21. Qh5 Nb8 (21... Nxe5 22. Bxe5 Qxe5 23. Qxf7+ Kh8 24. Qg6 and 21... g6 22. Bxg6 fxg6 23. Qxg6+ Kh8 24. e6+) 22. Qh7+ Kf8 23. e6 winning.
nothing elaborate =\
|Jan-07-05|| ||Gowe: According my study about the game if black plays Hxg5 there are a forced win in every variation.|
20.hxg5 21.h5! f8 the only for save mate in h7. Another variaton like f6 lose inmediately.
And now 22.e6!! threatening mate. <exf7>
|Jan-07-05|| ||Gowe: a) 22.f6 23.xf6!! gxf6 24.xf6 <threatening mate h8#> so xe6 and 25.g6! <g7 is the only move and white wins easily, if g7 there is mate in 2, h7+, h8#>|
b)22.f5 23.xf5 xe6 <the best move for black, because if not f7 wins> 24.f3!! <Very quiet move menacing mate in h7#> f4 25.h7+ f7 26.e1! <threatening mate xg7#> so d4 27.h8+ f7 28.h5+ f8 29.g6 f7 <Only because h8#> 30.xf5 gxf5 31.xf7 <And now it's an easy winning>
c)xe6 22.h7+ f7 23.ad1! and now
if <e8 24.g7+ d7 25.xf7+ c6 27.xe6+ And now an easy winning>
but if e7 the most espectacular mate is coming because 23.xf6!! xf6 24.g6+ e7 25.xg7+ d6 26.xe6! xe6 27. f5!!! xf5 28.f6+ And mate in 2.
|Jan-07-05|| ||Gowe: <The long diagonal> In your variation
hxg5 21.h7 kxh7 22.h5+ g8 23.xf7? it's not possible because of xf7 And you lose the game badly. |
|Jan-07-05|| ||samvega: No. The black knight is still on d7 in the variation starting with 20..hxg5. |
|Jun-21-05|| ||iron maiden: 9...cxd4 looks like it initiates Black's troubles. The simple 9...b6 seems more sound.|
|Jun-21-05|| ||superiorNOshow: Quite so iron maiden, but perhaps black can try to defend the b1- h7 diagonal by the desperate 15. g6. Although white has the initiative after g6 Nfg5,Rf8. And will eventually try to break in on the queenside with a4-a5. Plus h6(after g6) despite chasing the knight away will create a dreadfully weakened king. It seems that after these series of moves white has the whole board.|
|Jun-21-05|| ||chesswonders: Good attacking chess!|
|Jun-21-05|| ||Saph: I can't help myself.. Ha Ha PaulLovric|
|Jun-21-05|| ||Marco65: I'm still looking at the win after 20...hxg5. After 21.Qh5 Nf8 22.e6 Nxe6 previous <Gowe>'s analysis seems to forget that a pawn is still in f7.|
I like more 21.Bh7+ as <The Long Diagonal> suggested (2 years ago): 21...Kf8 22.Rxf7+! Kxf7 23.Qh5+ Ke6 24. Qg6+ Ke7 25.Qxg5+ Ke8 (moving on the f-file allows White to activate the rook, while 25...Ke6 26.Bf5+ Kf7 27.e6+ Ke8 28.exd6+ ) 26.Bg6+ Kf8 27.Rf1+ Kg8 28.Bf7+ Kf8 29.Be6+ Ke8 30.Qg6+ Ke7 31.Qf7#
|Jun-21-05|| ||Everett: <PaulLovric> not first|
|Jun-21-05|| ||Heavy Metal Thunder: <PaulLovric> You are Bob Ellsworth.|
|Jun-21-05|| ||DanRoss53: Great anaylsis <The Long Diagonal>! Do you really think Black saw all of the continuations, or do you think Black was trying to avoid the obvious draw of 20... hxg5 21. h7+ xh7 22. h5+ g8 23. xf7+ ˝-˝? Furthermore, do you think that perhaps Black took into consideration the fact that he was playing Salomon Flohr and decided 20... hxg5? was obviously a trap?|
|Jun-21-05|| ||kevin86: The attack went right to the bitter end,where a rook escorts a lowly pawn past an unsuspecting bishop.|
I especially enjoyed the oscillating pin of the hapless black rook by the queen at c4 and g4.
|Jun-21-05|| ||aw1988: Did Flohr cut the board in half?|
|Jun-21-05|| ||ajile: The really bad move is 16...NxN by Black. Before that he had less space but a solid position. After 17. fxe5 Black's best defender of the K-side (the NF6)is removed and he invites a classic style attack from White. Black should have been more patient and built up his pieces on the C file where he had better potential counterplay.|
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