|May-02-07|| ||dzanone: 43.Rxc5+ Kxb4 44.Rxe5 Will it be impossible to stop the b-pawn? A rook can be such an asset with an open board; I wouldn't resign here. Of course I'll never play anyone of Flohr's excellent abilities.|
|May-02-07|| ||Skylark: The position would be a draw were white's pawns not doubled. White's king is tied to the defense of the pawns, and black's king is optimally placed to aid in its advance. This ending is an excellent example of how to make a knight better than a bishop - the outpost on c4 proved to be very strong, and the power of this knight allowed black to construct a won rook ending. Nice game, white made mistakes in the opening though I feel (7. dxc5?)|
|May-02-07|| ||al wazir: <dzanone: 43.Rxc5+ Kxb4 44.Rxe5 I wouldn't resign here.> My thoughts exactly. I suppose the game would continue 44...Rd7 45. Re4+ Kb3 46. Re3+ Ka4 47. Rd3 (47. Re4+ b4, etc.) Rxd3 48. Kxd3 Kb3 49. Kd2 Kb2 50. Kd3 b4, etc.|
But what I don't know about endgames fills whole books.
|May-02-07|| ||openningspecialist: <al wazir> Rd7 really? come on Ka4 much better|
|May-02-07|| ||al wazir: <openningspecialist>: 44...Ka4 45. Re3 b4 46. Kd2 b3 47. Kc1 Ka3 48. Kb1 Rf5 49. Re7 Rxf3 50. Rxg7 Rxf2 51. Ra7+ Kb4 52. Rxh7. Now what?|
But as I said, I don't know much about endings.
|May-02-07|| ||Cyphelium: <al wazir> After 43. ♖xc5+ ♔xb4 44. ♖xe5 ♔a4 45. ♖e3 b4 46. ♔d2 b3 47. ♔c1 ♔a3 48. ♔b1, it looks stronger to play 48.- ♖d7. Then both 49. ♔c1 ♔a2 50. ♖e2+ ♔a1 or 49. ♖e1 ♖d2 clearly loses.
Still, in a real game I'd probably go for 45.- ♖d7 to keep white´s king away. Then if white exchanges rooks the pawn endgame is lost and if he doesn't, the b-pawn queens, I believe.|
|May-02-07|| ||outplayer: Really like this pun. It's funny. White didn't play a good middlegame. He moved his pieces forward and backward without exhibiting a plan. He was left with serious weaknesses in the kingside. A shame. :-((|
|May-02-07|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Flohr was a strong player, many chess players do not know that he was considered to be a candidate for a World Championship match ... (and more than once). |
His games show a clarity and beauty that can only be compared to Capablanca. [He also played complicated chess, I once studied one of his games where he sacked two or three pieces ... I never did figure out if it was sound or not.]
I don't think a decent book on Flohr was ever published, certainly there has never been a good book on this great player in English.
|May-02-07|| ||wolfmaster: Could some one explain the pun please?|
|May-02-07|| ||kevin86: "Floor it!" is an expression used to tell someone to speed up quickly by stepping hard on the gas pedal. It is heard in police shows and in other shows where there is a car chase.|
I think Mr Gusev could have fought a while longer,though the game looks somewhat hopeless.
|May-02-07|| ||Phony Benoni: 1955 being during the era of "Adjournment-After-40-Moves", White probably analyzed the position and convinced himself that it was lost--particularly against a player with a reputation for endgame prowess.|
Flohr had one of those names just made for puns. There is an undoubtedly apocryphal story that he predicted he would win all the prizes in a tournament because he had heard an elevator operator say, "First Flohr", Second Flohr", "Third Flohr"...
Or, for a particularly complicated game, you could use "Flohr better or Flohr worse". But this is all kind of silly. I'm sure that any moement now somebody from Flohr's hometown will pop up and say that his name is actually pronounced "Flour" or "Flaw" or "Gusev" or something like that.
|May-02-07|| ||Crowaholic: <al wazir>: I agree with <Cyphelium>: Rf5 doesn't seem to be a good idea for Black. Take a look at 42. Rxc5+ Kxb4 43. Rxe5 Ka4 44. Re3 b4 45. Kd2 b3 46. Kc1 Ka3 47. Kb1 Rd7! 48. Re1 Rd2 49. Rf1 Rb2+ 50. Ka1 Ra2+ 51. Kb1 b2 52. Kc2 Ra1 53. Rb1 Rxb1 54. Kxb1 g5!|
and White is in deadly Zugzwang, e.g.:
55. h3 Kb3! 56. f4 gxf4 57. f3 h5! 58. h4 Kc3 59. Ka2 Kc2 60. Ka3 b1=Q 61. Ka4 Qb6 62. Ka3 Qb3#
|May-02-07|| ||Minty: <Phony Benoni: 1955 being during the era of "Adjournment-After-40-Moves", White probably analyzed the position and convinced himself that it was lost--particularly against a player with a reputation for endgame prowess.>|
I don't think it would take an adjournment to figure out white is lost in this position.
After 42. Rxc5+ Kxb4 43. Rxe5 Rd7, there isn't anything white can do to stop the b-pawn advancing, and his own pawns are completely useless.
Nobody has mentioned 42. bxc5, which may be slightly better, but even then black wins easily, by pushing the b-pawn.
Personally, I would rather resign than play this position out. There's no hope of salvaging a draw.
|May-04-07|| ||thegoldenband: Why the heck did White play 20. gxf3, voluntarily doubling his pawns (for no compensation that I can see), instead of taking with the bishop?|