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Leonid Stein vs Salomon Flohr
Ch Ukraine 1957  ·  Caro-Kann Defense: Karpov Variation (B17)  ·  0-1
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May-27-04  Brian Watson: Interesting sac 11.b4.

What would follow 14..hxg5? 14..hxg5 15.Bb5+ seems to lead to a mass exchange at d2, and I count a rook and two pieces for black against a queen and pawn . . .

I liked black's defensive play, especially 18..Be4.

Final move is simple but piquant.

May-27-04  weepingwarrior: On move 23.Qc6 ? Why not either rook at f1, pinning the queen?
May-28-04
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  Gypsy: If 23.Rhf1, then 23...Bxc5 24.Rxf4+ Kg8 and Black consolidates fairly comfortably. He just has to avoid 24...Ke7? 25.Rd7+. Immediate 23...Kg8 also suffices. In either case Black should prevail, in due time, on material.
May-28-04  Brian Watson: 14..hxg5 15.Bb5+ Nd7 16.Nxd7 Nxd7 17.Rxd7 Qxd7 18.Bxd7+ Kxd7 19.Rd1+ Kc8 (or Kc7) 20.Qb5 should be winning for white, I guess.
Jul-21-05  vonKrolock: <7...Qe7>?! here 7...Nb6 is played almost as a general rule; experiments with 7...Nd5 were not quite successfull - but Flohr seems to provoke his incendiary opponent with this somewhat non-chalant Q move

<10...h6> or 10...0-0-0 11.Ne5 etc

<11.Bb4> there!

<12.dc> here 12.Nf7 was very interesting in order to produce complications, using the Tal principle that when one of Your pieces is en prise, You can put another of Your pieces en prise instead of flying or defending the attacked piece - the point is that after 12...Kf7 13.Rfe1!! cb4 14.Be6 Ke8 15.Bd7! black cannot take the third piece in 'd7' without concessions: a) 15...Nd7 16.Qd3 although black will get R+B+B for Q +P+P, his K is exposed and pieces disconnected; b) 15...Kd7 16.Qb5 etc; c) 15...Kd8!? (black can even try to spare the Q...) 16.Ne5! Nd7 17.Qc4! is an excellent starting point for researches - white sacrificed already two pieces and is still on the attack! now Nf7 check is a so formidable threat, that only two replies can be considered: a) 17...Ne5, leading to 18.de Ke8 19.Qb5! Kf7 20.Rd7! etc;

b) 17...Qg5 18.f4 (or 18.Re3!? Ne5 19.de Ke8 20.f4!?) 18... Qf4 19.Kb1 Nf6 (not 19...Ke5??) now white can draw by perpetual or still try to continue the attack

Jul-22-05  aw1988: I had no clue Flohr ever played Stein. What a game! Qxf1+ must have come as a nasty shock.
Jul-29-13  Conrad93: Flohr basically got lucky. White missed a clear win.
Jul-29-13  Conrad93: >Interesting sac 11.b4.
What would follow 14..hxg5? 14..hxg5 15.Bb5+ seems to lead to a mass exchange at d2, and I count a rook and two pieces for black against a queen and pawn . . .

I liked black's defensive play, especially 18..Be4.

Final move is simple but piquant.>

Your so claimed "bad move" refutes the entire gambit.


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14...hxg4! 15. Bb5+ Nfd7 16. Rxd7! Nxd7 17. Bxd7 Qxd7!! (17...Kc8! is another safe option; probably better) 18. Nxd7 Kxd7 19. Rd8+ Bd6


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Black is better off due to his material superiority.

Jul-29-13  Conrad93: I swear some chess players here are idiots. If you honestly think that a rook and a queen can win in this position, you need your brain examined.
Jul-30-13
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  perfidious: Never saw this game till now, in which Flohr defends well after what appears a dubious opening idea (7....Qe7).

<Conrad93: I swear some chess players here are idiots....>

Trying to prove your own point, are you?

Jul-30-13
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  talisman: <Conrad93> Stein??...Flohr?...Man you must be good!!!
Jul-30-13
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  perfidious: <talisman>: <Conrad> has a short memory, unless he's one of those types who emerged from the womb as a 2500 player.
Jul-31-13  Conrad93: This is covered in Adrew Soltis's book. The reality is that Flohr got lucky against an unstable opponent. Stein played the better game.
Jul-31-13
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  HeMateMe: Which Soltis book?
Jul-31-13  Conrad93: His most famous one.
Jul-31-13
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  HeMateMe: How cryptic. He has some 90 books. Are you referring to his history of the USA championship, or his history of the USSR championship? Those are his best.
Aug-01-13  Conrad93: No, those are his worst.
Aug-01-13
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  perfidious: One wonders whether any author, GM or both has ever done <anything> at all worthwhile in the eyes of <Conrad>.
Aug-01-13
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  perfidious: The position in the latter diagram above is, contrary to <Conrad>'s claim, almost certainly better for White after 20.Qb5+ Bc6 21.Qxg5. It is not easy for the black king to find shelter and White's queen is active here. Once the pawn at g7 comes off, Black's precarious king position is underscored.
Aug-02-13  Conrad93: Perfidious is showing his ignorance. If he took the time to play it out, he would easily see that four pieces are better than two, even when a queen is involved.

The capture of the g pawn is not an issue, since the queen is pretty much powerless after that petty attack.

Anyways, try to back up your claims with some analysis.

Aug-02-13  Conrad93: By the way, I already checked that out. The queen may be able to capture the pawn, but black is still better off after the king comes into play.

White may be able to somehow get perpetual check, but he is certainly not better.

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