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Cipev vs Lubomir Ftacnik
CSR (1973)
Vienna Game: Stanley. Frankenstein-Dracula Variation (C27)  ·  1-0


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Sep-30-05  esticles: Ouch that's brutal! If hxg5, Qb8#!
Jan-18-12  Whitehat1963: Definitely didn't see it.
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  Phony Benoni: Yep. The diagram looked like something from the Frankenstein-Dracula Variation, where Bg5 pinning Black's queen is a common theme. Of course it can't be played here ... except for that nasty double threat on b8!
Jan-18-12  LoveThatJoker: I'm seeing that 18. Bg5! wins on the spot for if 18...hxg5/18...Bf6 19. Qb8#

Also note that 18. Bg5! Nxb3 19. axb3 only helps White simplify the position as there are no saving checks of any kind.


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  sleepyirv: How long should you spend on a Wednesday puzzle? OTB, you might need an eureka moment 5 minutes or so in but in a puzzle form? Flash of inspiration should be faster

18.Bg5 capture with the pawn is mate Qb8 and thus Black must lose his queen.

Jan-18-12  mohannagappan: 18.Bg5! if 18. ..hxg5 or Bf6 19.Qb8#
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  FSR: This must not have made Ftacnik happy: 18.Bg5! wins the queen in light of 18...hxg5 19.Qb8#. The interpolation of 18...Nxb3+ 19.axb3 doesn't help.
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  dzechiel: White to move (18?). White is up an exchange and a pawn. "Medium/Easy."

At first I thought that this diagram was mislabeled, and that it might be black to move. But the more I looked at the position, the more it seemed that black has a lot of pull for his sacrificed material.

You have to cast around awhile to find the key move, but

18 Bg5

pins the black queen and threatens 19 Qb8#. There's no way for black to defend against both.

Time to check.

Jan-18-12  rilkefan: Such an odd position, it took me a minute to note that the lack of a Ra8 and the Kd8/Qe7 with pawn on d7 meant the back rank was weak.
Jan-18-12  Funicular: Spent 2 minutes or so looking for a way to actually play Bg5, after those 2 minutes of glory i noticed the back rank weakness and started laughing at myself
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  al wazir: Who is this Cipev, an unknown who beat GM Ftacnik? Or are the players' names reversed? This is the only game Cipev has in the database. To be sure, Ftacnik was only 16 at the time.
Jan-18-12  BadKnight: This one took me a few minutes. First i tried to force issues on g5, and figured it does not work, then tried to trap the knight on b5 with 1.a4, and knight on b5 has no safe square to go, except unfortunately it fails to 1...Nxb3+ 2.cxb3 Nd4. finally i saw 1.Bg5 hxg5 2.Qb8+ geometric motif. very easy if you spot it.
Jan-18-12  BadKnight: key theme here is the absence of rook on a8, the problem becomes very simple once you notice it.
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  lost in space: Took me a while to spot the answer,....

18. Bg5!!

Either queen lost after Bxe7 or mate with Qb8# 1:0

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  Once: The tavern was crowded to the rafters. It looked like all the village were there, and in a fighting mood.

Outside, a storm was raging. Lightning cracked and thunder ... thundered. How come we never did this sort of thing on a sunny day?

"Nah, e's done us no 'arm," argued Tom, the blacksmith. "Dr Frankenstein 'as allus been good to me."

"A good customer you mean," said Bill the turnip farmer, chewing a corn stalk and gently breaking wind. "I did 'ear that you've been makin' chains and manacles for 'im".

"Listen, listen," said Fred, the grockle mender. "The doctor is mad. He's been doin' foul hexperiments...."


"Hexperiments. I did 'ear that he turned a rook on a8 into a bishop. That's not natural, not natural, it ain't."

"I may be able to help you," said a well-spoken stranger that I hadn't previously noticed standing by the bar. "Mr name is Dr Helsing, the famous vampire hunter."

"Vampires ye say?" asked Bernard the wibble-turner. "Don't know about no vampires. Dr Frankenstein be a mad scientist. It says so on 'is mailbox."

"No, you are mistaken," said Dr Helsing, the well-spoken, well-dressed stranger in our midst. "He may be a mad scientist but through years of training, I can see that he is also one of the legion of the undead. A nosferatu. A bloodsucker."

"Hey, that's cool and kinda sexy!" said a young american exchange student. We all ignored her.

"I can kill the vampire," continued Dr Helsing. "But I will need your help. I need to get close enough to sink a stake into his heart. The square b8 should be close enough."

"But how are you going to get to b8?" asked Thomas, the wurlitzer winder.

"Oh, that's easier than you think," said Dr Helsing. "I just need one of you yokels with a pitchfork to stand on g5. It won't hurt a bit, I promise."

Jan-18-12  Robespierre: Wow -- so much for my supposed improvement! Missed it completely.
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: I wondered how Black could lose so quickly in such an analyzed line and looked into the database. It appears that 12...h6 is not very good and 14...Bxa8 rather lacking. One of the wins in the database after 12...h6 continued 14...f4: P Burke vs M Clarke, 1979 is another typical messy but spectacular win for the Frank-Drac.
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  Gypsy: <"Hexperiments. I did 'ear that he turned a rook on a8 into a bishop. That's not natural, not natural, it ain't.">

Ohh, this is priceless. Thx!

Jan-18-12  APatzer: Yes, Bg5. 2 threats 2 much to handle.
Jan-18-12  stacase: Hardly a Wednesday puzzle! Took about 10 seconds or less. Well OK, a few seconds more to see if it actually worked.

White's Queen can say mate from b8 if only the Bishop could get out of the way. Uh ... well will you look at that, Black's Queen is just waiting to be pinned and look who can do the job (-:

Puzzle or not, I think I would see this one over the board if it were my game.

Jan-18-12  sevenseaman: Black is an exchange down, a R for a N. g5 may turn out to be the hub of operations.

First thing that comes to mind is <18. Bg5> with the idea of getting it out of Q's way to b8. The pinned Black Q can only submit to the lowly P, if it wishes.

How can Black react when his cause is only served by having to make room for his K at e7 or d6. 18...d6 loses the Q. Taking the B or unpinning with his own B is not an option on a/c of the imperative of Qb8#.

I have come across this kind of positional epilepsy for the first time; amazing!

Black, if he chooses, can indulge in some spite checks.

18...Nxb3+ 19. axb3 Bxb2+ Kxb2 but he is really at the end of his tether. Qb8# sooner or later is his epitaph. A sensible Black will resign. <Ftacnik> surely will.

Jan-18-12  sevenseaman: I was keen to turn the page, not to see if my solution was right but to learn how Black's a8 R transmogrified into a B.

So <Ftacnik> created this POTD effectively at <8...Qe7>.

<Once> has created quite a spoof out of the ludicrous circumstance! Wot fun!

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  agb2002: White has a rook for a knight.

White would deliver mate with 18.Qb8 if the DSB were not on f4. Hence, 18.Bg5 and Black is defenseless against the double threat 19.Qb8# and 19.Bxe7.

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  morfishine: Get out of the Way!

<18.Bg5> clears the path for the White Queen to mate with 19.Qb8

Black has no time to save his Queen.

<Once> That was delightfully entertaining! Now we know who the real mad scientist is!

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  gofer: Finally, after what seems ages, but was probably 2 minutes, I see black has the threat of Qb8#.

But only <Once> we have removed Bf4 from blocking its path does this work so then the bishop "sham / psuedo / whatever" sacrifice comes quickly to mind.

Ironically, I looked at Bg5 as probably my first candidate, but discarded it because both hxg5 and Bf6 make sure that the queen pin is not going to come to anything...

<18 Bg5 ...>

I think black has to resign.

<18 ... Nxb3>
<19 axb3 ...>

Although Bxb2+ is available it does not achieve anything! So black is forced to play ...

<19 ... Qxg5+>
<20 hxg5 ...>

In this position, I think a Queen for Bishop exchange gives black too much to do. It would be nice if the royal fork on e2 was available for black - but it isn't.

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