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|Jun-20-09|| ||outplayer: I think 25...Qxf6 is a better move.|
|Jun-20-09|| ||Eisenheim: I think the rook on 21 was takeable. My non-computer line went 21 ...Qxb2 22 Bxf6 gxf6 23 Qg4+ Kf8, 24 Bxh7 Bxf2+ 25 Kxf2 Re2+, 26 Kxe2 Ke8, 27 Qg8+ Kd7, 28 Qxf7+ Kc8 (not Kc6 or Nd4+ forces the loss of the Q) while white is better off, there are still drawish possibilities. But what the heck do I know, this line took me five minutes, and I'm not Rybka. Fritz or Tal, and my 2000 rating may be a figment of my imagination or a product of the inquisition. enjoy the weekend!|
|Jun-20-09|| ||Yodaman: Talk about confusing! Mikhail Tal would have had my head spinning after he let me do 18...Bxe1 and I certainly would have resigned in fright after 21. Bg5. Again he is giving up a free rook. I think I'd resign immediately and pretend like I saw his plan. Oh man, this is crazy! Move after move I'm lost at why. He'd time me out before I realized what these moves do.|
|Jun-20-09|| ||kevin86: I guess this will end soon as Bd5 cannot be stopped,followed by loss of the f-pawns for black.|
|Jun-20-09|| ||xrt999: < drukenknight: it is just like Geller to play that d5 move, he played some Marshall Attacks too out of the spanish, very similar.>|
I am not enthused about 14...d5; it just seems counterintuitive -and weakening- for black.
In the end, Geller cannot cope with the passed pawn on d6 that arose from this line, building up to and ending in the brutal 26.Re7 for Tal.
|Jun-20-09|| ||Kinghunt: <Eisenheim> a quick 16 ply analysis by Rybka agrees that 21...Qxb7 leaves black with a large and winning advantage. It gives the line 21...Qxb7 22. Bxf6 Re6 23. Bxg7 Qa7 24. Ng5 Qxd4 25. Bxd4 Rh6 |
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+1.82 for black
|Jun-20-09|| ||WhiteRook48: no one expected the Spanish Inquisition because the door was Closed|
|Jun-20-09|| ||Googleandchess45: Chessgames.com, are there any more more contests coming up, besides of course Chessbookie and The Holiday Hunt?|
|Jun-20-09|| ||solskytz: This is only n. 20? One of the most genius Monty Python Skits of all time, gets an appropriate mention - re-vote! re-evaluate!|
|Jun-20-09|| ||chessgames.com: <Chessgames.com, are there any more more contests coming up, besides of course Chessbookie and The Holiday Hunt?> None are announced at this time, sorry.|
|Jun-21-09|| ||BishopofBlunder: <solskytz: This is only n. 20? One of the most genius Monty Python Skits of all time, gets an appropriate mention - re-vote! re-evaluate!>|
One would hope that the higher ranked puns would be ones that were, you know, original.
|Aug-06-09|| ||LIFE Master AJ: << May-07-09 <IM A SUPER GM:> I am the greatest! I could have smashed both Tal and geller in a blindfold simultaneous game...I am ME!> |
<IM A SUPER>> Pass it to the right, buddy, pass it to the right ...
|Aug-06-09|| ||kingfu: Tal had some great games with Fischer. Fischer and Tal are even in wins against each other. Geller actually had a plus score against Fischer! Geller could never get to the top of Soviet Chess. This game is a good reason why.|
|Aug-07-09|| ||Albertan: I wonder why this idea of 12.b4 has hardly been used? In my Chessbase Megabase it has only been used in 3 games,this game, another in 1958 between Tolush and Barcaza and one game in 1959 between two players named Kostro and Brzozka?|
|Aug-07-09|| ||Albertan: <outplayer: I think 25...Qxf6 is a better move>|
You are right, playing 25...gxf6?? cost Geller this game!
|Aug-07-09|| ||Olavi: Tal beat Fischer 4-2 in classical games, the other two Fischer wins in the database are 5 min in 1970.|
|Aug-07-09|| ||Honza Cervenka: <Albertan: <outplayer: I think 25...Qxf6 is a better move>|
You are right, playing 25...gxf6?? cost Geller this game!>
He was playing for win here and he saw that after 25...Qxf6 the draw would be inevitable outcome and so decided for the only alternative. Unfortunately for him he overlooked that after 26.Re7 Qxe7 white has 27.Qg4+ giving check and unpinning Pd6 at once.
|Aug-08-09|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <<kingfu> "Geller could never get to the top of Soviet Chess."> |
TWICE ... in the 1960's, Geller looked set to go all the way to the World Championship matches.
Only Spassky stopped him ... (both times).
|Sep-03-11|| ||talisman: well 25...gxf6 is bad and loses...but you don't see 9...♘a5 much now either.|
|Apr-14-12|| ||balzarius: This is another prime example that not even a battle-hardened fighter and top contender in the 50-60s for the crown could not withstand Tal's fierce onslaugt even tough his marvellous attacks weren't altogether correct.|
|Apr-14-12|| ||Octal: <Eisenheim>: White doesn't have to play 25 Kxf2. 21 ... Qxb7 22 Bxf6 gxf6 23 Qg4+ Kh8 24 Bxh7 Bxf2+ 25 Kh2 and how does Black stop 26 Qg8#? 25 ... Bg1+ 26 Nxg1|
But that one guy with the computer found that 22 ... gxf6 wasn't forced.
|Aug-02-13|| ||Zhbugnoimt: Houdini says 21.Bg5 is losing blunder|
|Oct-18-15|| ||Alex Schindler: One of the best named games I've seen on this site - and one of the best attacks with it.|
|Sep-13-16|| ||zydeco: Tukmakov has a nice analysis of this game in Risk and Bluff in Chess. |
He says 19....Re8 cost Geller "a great deal of effort." 19....Ba5 was probably the most principled. 19....Qxd5 and 19....Bxf2+ are also valid alternatives.
There's actually no need for 21.Bg5. White is slightly better after 21.Rc7. The computer is unimpressed and beats off white's attack with 21....Qxb7 22.Bxf6 Re6
Btw it took me a few minutes to see why 23.Re7 doesn't work: 23.....Bxf2+ 24.Qxf2 Rxf2 25.Rxe6 Rxc2 and black is up material.
Tukmakov gives 25....Qxf6 26.Qxf6 gxf6 27.d7 Kf8 28.Bxh7 Re5 with a probable draw.
|Jan-26-19|| ||HarryP: 21 Bg5 is one of my favorite Tal moves.|
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