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|Aug-05-10|| ||goodevans: What if Geller had played <... Nfd7> at some point (possibly without <... h6>)? The R on b7 looks trapped, c3 looks vulnerable and the K-side attack doesn't look as potent.|
|Aug-05-10|| ||mworld: resisting the temptation to play or just assume that 21.f7+ is good enough is part of the brilliancy here!|
|Aug-05-10|| ||playground player: <Travis Bickle> I think the Soviet government had a lot to do with Bronstein, a Jew, not becoming world champion. I don't mean this as disrespect to Botvinnick, but I strongly suspect the KGB leaned pretty hard on his non-Russian opponents--Bronstein, Keres, Tal.|
|Aug-05-10|| ||mistreaver: Is 6...d5 book move? Doesn't it just relieve white of his main weakness?|
|Aug-05-10|| ||kevin86: Either way the king moves,the knight will mate them at g6.|
|Aug-05-10|| ||davegras: After 20 Qg6 I'm a little surprised Geller doesn't resign then.|
|Aug-05-10|| ||Marmot PFL: <Geller doesn't usually get "miniatured"!>|
For a top level player it seemed to me he did lose more than his share of quick games. He was a fine attacker, but maybe not a great defender.
|Aug-05-10|| ||Marmot PFL: <How did Bronstein never become WC?>|
Stalin would not allow a WC with the same name as Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein).
|Aug-05-10|| ||HeMateMe: I think i've seen this one co-opted into a puzzle book.|
|Aug-05-10|| ||Everett: I consider Bronstein a trickster figure of chess, pushing the boundaries and showing the limits, but perhaps not the one to rule the kingdom. |
Anyone who has read a bit on Bronstein knows he was certainly conflicted regarding his relationship to chess competition. His success, particularly from '48-'58, is due to enormous talent and immense imagination, but not because of strong professional aspirations.
Bronstein takes responsibility for the last two games of the WC with Botvinnik, and I don't believe he was prevented to become WC due to being Jewish, nor because he was Ukrainian.
|Aug-05-10|| ||drnooo: well I looked at the rook takes at f7 and saw that it was more than enough, and quit, with either winning. as for
the query about Bronstein backing off at the last from Botvinnik somewhere I seem to have gleaned that it was his dad that was perhaps fated for the
salt mines: anyone here who does not
like conspiracy theories about any of these top level guys have never seen
or felt the grip and horror of the KGB' I have too many friends with
personal stories about knocks on their door at midnight and poof members of their family vanishing
never to be heard from again. cryptically and quipplically all Bronstein said was about the match
I just wanted to prove he was not a God.
|Aug-05-10|| ||knightnday: when did bron see the outcome? you think by 14 rb1 he already had it planned?|
For geller to leave that R on 7th rank undisturbed for so long was inviting disaster
|Aug-05-10|| ||HeMateMe: I just got the pun--bronZE Art. Some puns are deeper than others...|
|Aug-05-10|| ||TheChessGuy: Such imaginative, unrestrained play! All honor to David Ionovich for never compromising from his vision of the truth in chess. A person could make a painting of the position after 20.Qg6!! I'd buy it. As chess players, we are all artists, even though the kind of art we choose to produce is not always understood as such. If someone were to create an exhibition of his games, this one and the following classic must be included. Spassky vs Bronstein, 1960|
|Nov-24-10|| ||sevenseaman: A master sees a win in total darkness for most others! This makes my day!|
|Nov-27-10|| ||Ulhumbrus: The move 16 g4? starts an unsound attack whose aim is out of proportion to whatever little advantage which White may have, and is not justified by it.|
However the move 16...h6? disturbs the King side pawns without necessity so that the h pawn joins no longer its colleague on f7 in the task of defending the square g6, and the f7 pawn is left with the task of guarding by itself the square g6.
It is not obvious why the f7 pawn will be be pinned by White's queen's rook on the seventh rank, a rook which attacks indirectly the g7 pawn. The reason is that White's Rook will not act on its own but in concert with two other White men which will join the Rook's attack on g7 in two different ways.
White's pawn on f6 and a N on f4 will join this attack and act in concert with the Rook as follows.
The pawn on f6 will join the attack on g7 after the f7 pawn which obstructs White's queen's rook on seventh rank defends the point g6 has been diaplaced to g6.
The N on f4 will invade the point g6 after the f7 pawn which defends the point g6 has been displaced, and a Rook arriving on the point g7 has taken away the flight square g8 from Black's King.
The White Q on g6 serves to displace Black's pawn on f7 so that after 20...fxg6 21 Rxg7+ Kf8 22 Nxg6 mate becomes possible.
If Black omits the move 16...h6 and proceeds at once with the counter-attack 16...cxd4, after 17 g5 dxe3 18 gxf6 Rxc3 White's Queen will be denied the point g6, and Black may end up refuting White's attack.
|Jan-17-11|| ||notyetagm: 20 ?
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20 d3-g6! <pin: b7-g7>
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Game Collection: ESSS*I*T: EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY SQUARE *IS* THRE
Bronstein vs Geller, 1961 20 Qd3-g6! White b7-rook threatens g7-focal point thru Black f7-pawn
|Jan-17-11|| ||notyetagm: Game Collection: KILLER PAWNS!|
|Mar-07-11|| ||JamesT Kirk: 20.Qg6!! BOOOM!!!|
|Apr-20-11|| ||ughaibu: Whiteshark: if you require at most 20 moves for qualification as a miniature, then this game itself isn't one.|
|May-06-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: WOW!!! Wowie, wow-wow, wowzers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
|May-06-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I think I like it.|
|May-06-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Poor Geller must have thrown up all over the chess board. (The lad had to have been in deep shock.)|
|Nov-10-11|| ||sicilianhugefun: Truly Bronstein is among the greatest chess players of all time!! I am so grateful to Chessgames.com without which I would have never seen all of these so beautiful games dating back from the time of Philidor.. This website is my FANTASY LAND... its a galaxy where I can navigate with immense pleasure and marvel with incomprehensible bliss the most wonderful games of Chess stars of all time.. Words aren't enouggh to express my deepest thankfullnes for CHESSGAMES.COM Longlive!!|
|Apr-25-12|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: Qg6 !!|
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