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| Oct-16-05 | | Poisonpawns: 5.Be3 definetly better white made 5 pawn moves in the opening,Lagged seriously in development and got hammered. |
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| May-25-16 | | mertangili: It is very instructive for me to work out variations to see why 17. Rf1 fails. |
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Dec-25-21
 | | OhioChessFan: Way beyond my pay grade... |
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| Dec-25-21 | | Brenin: I saw 9 ... 0-0 10 Nxc5 (eliminating one of the two most dangerous pieces attacking his K's position) Qh4+ 11 g3 Qb4+, regaining the sacrificed piece and continuing the attack, but at this point calculation gave out (does White play 12 c3, Nc3, Nd2, Bd2 or Qd2?) and I relied on instinct to know that Black should be winning with best play, or at least, OTB White would not find an adequate defence, if there is one. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | beenthere240: With 2�e5 Black can transpose to the Latvian gambit! |
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| Dec-25-21 | | raymondhow: No solve here. I wanted to play 9...Ne3 expecting 10.Bxe3 Bxe3 thinking my bishop would dominate the position, but forgot how exposed my own king was. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | Honey Blend: I might have played 10. ♗g5 or even 10. h4 to stop ... ♕h4 threats. White also has 10. ♗f3 to block the open f-file. The position is slightly favorable for Black but I don't see a straightforward win here. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | mel gibson: I wasn't sure.
Stockfish 14.1 is calling it close to a draw:
9... O-O
(9. .. O-O (O-O ♗c1-g5 ♗c5-e7 ♗g5xe7 ♕d8xe7 ♕d1-d2
♘b8-c6 ♘b1-c3 ♘d5-f4 O-O ♘c6-d4 ♖a1-e1 b7-b6 ♗e2-d1 ♗c8-b7 g2-g3 ♕e7-c5
♔g1-h1 ♘f4-e6 ♕d2-g2 ♕c5-c6 h2-h4 b6-b5 ♔h1-h2 a7-a5 ♘c3-b1 ♘e6-c5 ♘b1-d2
a5-a4 c2-c3 ♘d4-f5 ♕g2-e2 ♘f5-d6 ♗d1-c2 ♖a8-d8 a2-a3 h7-h6 ♖f1xf8+ ♖d8xf8
♖e1-f1 ♖f8xf1 ♕e2xf1 ♘c5-d7) +0.59/41 509)
score for Black +0.59 depth 41. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | stacase: 9...O-O was a fun move. |
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Dec-25-21
 | | scormus: OK, I got the first few moves, and the last few, but for the most part I cannot say I really felt sure about where it was going. I'm not surprised SF called it fairly even.
But it always looked like it was much harder for W than B to find good moves |
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| Dec-25-21 | | Socrates2: Perhaps 19. Rg1 would have given white a better defensive chance. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | agb2002: White threatens Nxc5.
The first idea that comes to mind is 9... 0-0 10.Nxc5 Qh4+ 11.g3 Qb4+ 12.c3 Qxc5 and Black is way ahead in development. However, after 10.Bg5 Be7 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 Black's dynamic advantage may start fading out and the isolated e-pawn become a worrying weakness. A funny end would be 9... Qh4+ 10.Kd2 Be3# but White would get a clear advantage after 10.g3 Qe7 11.Bh5+ g6 12.Bg5. I can't find anything better than 9... 0-0. |
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Dec-25-21
 | | Teyss: Merry Christmas to everyone or Happy Holidays if you prefer.
I like puzzles where the solution is castling, quite original. White did not play the best moves but the decisive mistake was apparently 18.c3 weakening the d3 P.
In the end there is nothing White can do against 29...e3 and 30...Rxd2. |
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Dec-25-21
 | | chrisowen: I sentry o auldy 0-0 focum fab ie v its ignoble v it I sentry o auldy backy mitigates v its friendly its ovid gourd auldy key i haw its v quad its crikey is moth its ale v it a binds puffy invade its way goggle v its ace its an oomph fat hobble game its divine blubb cervix i v faith in its deck c hog v it om then its core it arouse it dull befriend v its focus v it dub v its afford packed its c efface v its walled it sh tire nn got coffeed its bap hit ah crick a kin do it anoint munch like its qijong against o v its grenobled its hit ref done its clunged its a vain dig c bog c id block i rode it v ard i toe von bog c v it dr fee it biggy its cord its bee it gee guv its figure v it scrabble blag its deck chess v it ok i c 0-0 it don't stop be gi roger v it loo ie grog its vorlon tonnage o rig a min no gore its voldermort like it ra v its monday like it coffs kindly goggle fir vital fraggle hike die a bet v it c re na lit how its groan its dug its ear 0-0 fib; |
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| Dec-25-21 | | messachess: So, it ended with no play left for black. An effective squeeze play. Pretty straight forward actually. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | Messiah: <[...] then its core it arouse it dull [...] grenobled [...] biggy [...] kindly [...] how its groan its dug its ear [...]> yes! YES!!!!!!!!!!!! The Library of Babel! |
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Dec-25-21
| | chrisowen: No doubt Mexsiah no? Elk fo no :) |
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| Dec-25-21 | | Hercdon: <OhioChessFan> � or do you mean �play grade� lol A nice instructive game on how to quietly strangulate your opponent |
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| Dec-25-21 | | FM David H. Levin: <agb2002: However, after [9...O-O] 10.Bg5 Be7 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 Black's dynamic advantage may start fading out and the isolated e-pawn become a worrying weakness.> 10. Bg5 can be answered by 10...Bf2+! 11. Kd2 (11. Nxf2 Qxg5, threatening 12...Qxg2 or 12...Ne3). Assuming Black wouldn't then take a draw by 11...Qxg5+ 12. Nxg5 Be3+ 13. Ke1 Bf2+, the choices seem to be the tempting but speculative 11...Qxg5 12. Nxg5 Be3+ 13. Ke1 Bxg5 14. c3 (or perhaps 14. Bf3, making room for the queen along a different diagonal) or the more sober yet still complex 11...Qe8. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | AlicesKnight: I saw the way in but no further. Fascinating attack sustained by regular reinforcement and a squeeze of white to the Q-side. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | devere: < FM David H. Levin: <agb2002: However, after [9...O-O] 10.Bg5 Be7 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 Black's dynamic advantage may start fading out and the isolated e-pawn become a worrying weakness.>> <10. Bg5 can be answered by 10...Bf2+! 11. Kd2 (11. Nxf2 Qxg5, threatening 12...Qxg2 or 12...Ne3). Assuming Black wouldn't then take a draw by 11...Qxg5+ 12. Nxg5 Be3+ 13. Ke1 Bf2+, the choices seem to be the tempting but speculative 11...Qxg5 12. Nxg5 Be3+ 13. Ke1 Bxg5 14. c3 (or perhaps 14. Bf3, making room for the queen along a different diagonal) or the more sober yet still complex 11...Qe8.> Nice line, but after 11...Qe8 12.c4 White may even stand better. So after 9...O-O! White should play 10.Bg5! and after 10...Be7 11.Qd2 he has a defensible position. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I found the insane move: 8. ♖f1 ♕xf1+ 19. ♗xf1 ♖xf1+ 20. ♔d2 ♘f3+ 21. ♔e2 ♖e1+ 22. ♔xf3 ♖xe4 23. dxe which seems to be equal. Or even, 21. ♔c3 ♗d7 22. b4 c5 23. ♗b2 ♖f2 24. ♖c1 cxb4+ 25. ♔xb4 a5+ 26. ♔a3 b5 27. ♗a1 b4+ 28. ♔b2 a4... when Black still have attach and some chances... Merry Christmas or holiday everybody! Thank you so much, everybody at Chessgames, who make us happy even in this day, when many are alone or forgotten. Fortunatey, not me, but I know that many of us, chess players, are quite different from the rest of the world, many are people who lives alone when old, and chess is our comfort to win theses sads days, I hope a wonderful day for you too. |
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| Dec-25-21 | | beenthere240: Considering defense - Na3 per stockfish avoids the cataclysm |
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| Dec-26-21 | | FM David H. Levin: <devere: So after 9...O-O! White should play 10.Bg5! and after 10...Be7 11.Qd2 he has a defensible position.> In this line, White seems to come under pressure after 11...Bxg5 12. Qxg5 (12. Nxg5 Nf4) 12...Qxg5 13. Nxg5 h6! (on 13...Ne3 14. Kd2 Nxg2, 15. d4! threatens Bc4+... or dxe5...) 14. Nf3 Nc6, intending ...Ne3 or ...Nf4. Maybe White should exchange bishops at move 11 before playing Qd2, so that White's queen can stick around to help control the dark squares. |
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| May-07-22 | | whiteshark: [Quotes]
“If people in power are artfully pulling a red herring to cover up the <cataclysm> of their commitments, keeping people on a short leash and driving them playfully into an alley of false promises, we would do well to rely on attentive and considerate observers who send out alarm signals in time to prevent social corrosion. (" High noon. ")” ― Erik Pevernagie |
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