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|Oct-08-08|| ||just a kid: What if 18...cxb5?|
|Oct-08-08|| ||sleepyirv: 19.Bxe5 and I think Black is lost. His Queen is pushed outside the action which allows White to take over the board. For example: 19.Bxe5 Bxe5 20.Qxg5 e6 21.Qxe5|
|Oct-08-08|| ||Shams: <sleepyirv> in your line black keeps the piece and seems to defend with 20...♗d6. I think simply 18...cxb5 19.♕d5 ♖b8 20.♗xe5 ♗xe5 (forced) 21.♕xe5 and black must pitch the rook to stop the mate.|
|Oct-08-08|| ||syracrophy: And the rest is beautiful: 21...♔f8 22.♗xf6!! exf6 (▢) 23.♖h8+ ♔e7 24.♕xd8+ ♕xd8 25.♖xd8 ♔xd8 with an easy won endgame for White|
|Oct-09-08|| ||sleepyirv: <Shams> What about 19...Nc4 in your variation? I'm looking at 19...Nc4 20.Rh1 (must move rook or White will be mated) Bxb2 21.Kd1 Bg4+ 22. Ke1 (22.f3? Ne3+!) b3+ 23.Kf1 bxc2 and I don't think White can block a mate.|
Did I miss something again?
|Oct-09-08|| ||Shams: <sleepyirv> you're right, 19...♘c4 cooks my line. I think together we've hit on it: 18.♗b5 cxb5 19.♕xg5 ♔f8 (19...♘g6 20.♕d5 ) 20.♗xe5 ♗xe5 (20...f6 21.♕f4 Δ ♗c7) 21.♕xe5 gives this:|
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and I can't find a move for black-- can you?
|Oct-09-08|| ||Shams: addendum-- let me correct a sideline: 20...f6 21.♕h5 is better, e.g. 21...♗g7 22.♕f3 |
|Oct-09-08|| ||sleepyirv: <Shams> I think that's it.|
|Oct-10-08|| ||just a kid: Thanks<shams,sleepyirv and syacrophy.>|
|Aug-29-11|| ||DrMAL: Hebden plays one of his favorites the "dodgy" Barry Attack and, rather than 3...d5 black plays 3...Bg7 for a Pirc, made unusual by 5.Be3 and 5...Ng4?! also seen in the blitz game Kosteniuk vs Mamedyarov, 2009 where white blundered.|
After 9.Bg3 most logical seemed simply 9...Nf6 back but 9...Nd7?! was chosen to complicate. 11.Bd3 also seemed logical but 11.e5 was not bad, even if a bit "retrograde" for the knight on c3. After 13...Qa5 one obvious move was 14.a3 to kick black's queen but again a less clear move 14.h4 was chosen. After another complicating move 18.Bb5 (instead of 18.a3) and those that followed, instead of simply recapturing 20...Bxe5 for equality black got fancier still with 20...Rd8? losing a piece. Not a strong game but an amusing one.
|Nov-18-16|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Who is this Barry fellow? In looking at the database after 3.Nc3,d5, early adopters include Bondarevsky and Antoshin, but the big fan appears to be Blatny. So who is Barry?|
|Nov-18-16|| ||SpamIAm: An Englishman- My understanding is that "Barry" in this case, aka "Barry Attack", is simply slang for bulls__t. I first read that in "Chess" magazine.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||Checker2: I was getting excited about 18. Qxb5 and mating on g8 until I evaluated black's checks and queen captures.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||agb2002: White is one pawn down.
The pawn on a2 is indirectly protected by Qd8#.
18.Qxg5 loses to 18... Nd3+ 19.Rxd3 Qxg5+.
The black knight protects c6 and d7. These details suggest 18.Bb5, threatening 19.Bxe5:
A) 18... Qxb5 19.Qd8#.
B) 18... cxb5 19.Qd5
B.1) 19... Rb8 20.Bxe5
B.1.a) 20... Bxe5 21.Qxe5 wins due to the double threat Qh8# and Qxb8.
B.1.b) 20... e6 21.Qc6+ and 22.Bxb8 wins.
B.2) 19... Bb7 20.Qxb7 Rd8 21.Rxd8+
B.2.a) 21... Qxd8 22.Bxe5 Bxe5 23.Qxb5+ and 24.Qxe5 + - [N].
B.2.b) 21... Kxd8 22.Qb8+ Kd7 23.Bxe5 + - [N].
C) 18... Bb7 19.Bxe5
C.1) 19... Bxe5 20.Qd7+ Kf8 21.Qxb7 wins decisive material (21... Rd8 22.Rxd8+ Qxd8 23.Qxc6, etc.).
C.2) 19... Qxb5 20.Qxg5
C.2.a) 20... B(Q)xe5 21.Qg8#.
C.2.b) 20... Kf8 21.Qh6+ and mate in two.
C.2.c) 20... e6 21.Qg8+ Ke7 22.Bb8 and the double threat Qd8# and Qxh8 wins. For example, 22... Qb6 23.Qxh8 Ba6 24.Bd6+ Kd7 25.Bc5+, etc.
C.3) 19... cxb5 20.Qd7+ Kf8 21.Qxb7 wins decisive material.
D) 18... Qc7 19.Bxe5 Bxe5 (19... Qxe5 20.Qd8#) 20.Bxc6+ wins the rook.
E) 18... Qb6 19.Bxe5 cxb5 (19... Bxe5 20.Bxc6+ as in D) 20.Bxh8 wins. For example, 20... f6 21.Qd5 with the double threat Qg8# and Qxa8.
F) 18... Bd7 19.Bxe5 wins decisive material. For example, 19... Rd8 20.Bxh8 bxc6 21.Be5 + - [N vs P].
|Nov-18-16|| ||mertangili: What happens after 20..Bxe5?|
|Nov-18-16|| ||cocker: Fritz 'thinks' 20 ... Bxe5 would have been level.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||clement41: I'm sure Hebden considered the thematic pawn sac 14 e6, before seemingly favouring the opening of the h-file, perhaps because this gives more scope to the Dragon-like Bg7.
His 18 Bb5! is rather hard to see and is beautiful, both freeing f1 to allow a later Rh1, and obstructing the 5th rank to threaten Qxg5/Bxe5 Bxe5 Qxg5, as well as Bxc6+.
A hell of a purpose for a single move! Couldn't find it.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||mertangili: <clement41> I agree to your comments on the merits of 18. Bb5. And yet it seems it only leads to equality after 20..Bxe5 as Bf4 pin threat stops white from achieveing anything significant after 21.Bxc6+.
So it seems with correct play the position is equal after all.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||steinitzfan: That's one wild puzzle. Good one, though. If there's a way for Black to hold the position it's very hard to find.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||patzer2: <cocker: Fritz 'thinks' 20 ... Bxe5 would have been level.> Fritz is not alone in that assessment. Stockfish 7 gives 20...Bxe5 21. Qxg5 Qxb5 = (0.00 @ 34 depth).|
So, for our Thursday puzzle (18. ?), it appears the pretty game continuation 18. Bb5! = only leads to equality after 20...Bxe5 =.
According to the computers, Black has another path to equality with 18...cxb5 19. Qxg4 Nd7 = (0.00 @ 30 depth, Stockfish 7).
One simple point of our Thursday puzzle (18. ?) is to avoid 18. Qxg5?? Nd3+ , because it loses the unprotected White Queen to a discovered check.
Instead of 18. Bb5 =, the computer pick 18. a3 gives White a slight edge after 18. a3 Rb8 19. Re1 f6 20. Bxe5 fxe5 21. Re4 Bf6 22. Rxb4 Rxb4 23. Qxb4 Qxb4 24. axb4 e4 25. Nd2 Bf5 26. c3 = to (0.32 @ 23 depth, Deep Fritz 15).
|Nov-18-16|| ||dfcx: My stockfish also suggests 18...Bf5 as equal to 18...Bg4 and 18...cxb5, all rated at +0.00 @30.|
Black blundered on 20...Rd8?? (+6.42@28), the correct defense is
20...Bxe5 21.Qxg5 Qxc5 22.Qg8+ Kd7 23.Qxa8 Qb6 (-0.55@28).
Black has a slight edge.
Black's rook is safe after 20...Bxe5. If white tries
21.Bxc6+!? Kf8 22.Bxa8?? (Qxg5?? Bxb2+) Bf4!.
|Nov-18-16|| ||PJs Studio: This puzzle was pretty slick. Even for a Friday. (I didn't have the time to calculate all of blacks excellent responses to try and hold his flawed position together either.) Very nice.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||An Englishman: Good Morning: <SpamIAm>, thanks for the information. Seems like one of the odder origins for an opening name.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||Rama: Wow. My means of distracting the Q from d8, was to capture the Ne5. Wrong.|
|Nov-18-16|| ||keypusher: <An Englishman> See here for more re the etymology and history of the Barry Attack.|
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