|Nov-03-03|| ||euripides: 13 Ne7+ Nxe7 14 Bxf7 mate also works. |
|Nov-03-03|| ||Alchemist: It took me 15 minutes but i think i've calculated out Rxf7+ to completion, and it looks like it's a win.|
Rxf7+ Kxf7(forced) followed by Nxb6+ with strong mating possiblities. I know i'm not the only one who saw this... I wasted a lot of time on Ng5+ only to refute it. Anyway, I thought it was forced mate at first but then realized Qxc4 would keep black in the game, at least to die a slow and horrible death.
It's an interesting possibility anyway, razor sharp.
|Nov-03-03|| ||Honza Cervenka: When I saw 11.Rxf7+ Kxf7 12.Nxb6+, which is more than sufficient for win, I stopped searching for any other possibility. I forgot Lasker's advice no to do the first good move immediately after seeing it as there can be also anything better...:-) |
|Nov-03-03|| ||AdrianP: The combination which Horowitz chose is almost all the more impressive given that Rxg7 looks so attractive... |
|Nov-03-03|| ||patzer2: Who was it that first wrote "always check it might be mate?" I solved today's problem with 11. Qxg7+ Kxg7 12. Bh6+ Kg8 13 Ne7+ Nxe7 14 Bxf7#, but definitely like Horowitz's solution better. |
|Nov-03-03|| ||Lawrence: <euripedes> I like your solution better, it's so clean and simple.|
<patzer2> I think the original quotation was "If you have to choose between a Czech and a Slovak always choose the Czech, she may be your mate."
|Nov-03-03|| ||patzer2: Although it is merely academic, with the two mates shown above, 11. Rxf7+ makes for some very pretty combinations. Fritz 8 (@ 15/65 depth & 725kN/s) gives:|
1. (8.84) 12...Qxc4 13. Nxc8 Qxc2+ 14. Kxc2 Nd4+ 15. Kd1 Rhxc8 16. Be3 h6 17. Bxd4 exd4 18. Nf4 Re8 19. Nd4 Rad8 20. Nxc7
2. (12.84) 12...d5 13. Nxc8 Rhc8 14. Bxd5+ Qxd5 15. exd5 Nd4 16. c3 Re8 17. cxd4 exd4 18. Ng5+ Kg8 19. Ne6 Re7 20. Qxd4
3. (14.87) 12...Ke8 13. Nxc8 Qxc4 14. dxc4 h6 15. Qxg7 Rxc8 16. Qxh8+ Kd7 17. Qxh6 Re8 18. Ng5
4. (#12) 12...Qd5 13. Bxd5+ Kf8 14. Qf3+
5. (#4) 12...Kf8 13. Qf3+ Bf5 14. Qxf5+ Ke8 15. Qf7+ Kd8 16. Qd7#
One possibility not shown by Fritz 8 (as I have the program set to give only the best five continuations) is
6. (#3) 12...Ke7 13. Qxg7+ Ke8 14. Qxh8+ Ke7 15. Bg5#
|Nov-03-03|| ||euripides: Is this game a bad case of misguided symmetry ? Black never gets out of trouble after move 3. |
|Nov-03-03|| ||patzer2: <euripides> Black is not in terrible shape after 3... Bc5, but can do better. Some alternatives to consider are:|
3...Nf6 transposing into the standard book line, after which BCO (Kasparov and Keene) indicates black achieves equality after 3...Nf6 4. d3 d6
5. f4 Be6 6. Bxe6 [6. Bb3 Nc6 7. f5 Bxb3 8. ab h6 as in J Mieses vs Von Scheve, 1901 is also good for equality] 6...fe 7. fe de 8. Qe2 Nc6 9. Be3 Bxe3 10. Qxe3 0-0 as in Spielmann vs Tarrasch, 1928
3...f5!? which is a rare try that gave black good play in F Roeder vs L Henris, 1992 and Kivisto Mikko vs Pyhala Antti, 1986
After 3...Bc5 Kasparov and Keene in BCO analyze 3...Bc5 4. Qg4! g6 5. Qf3 Nf6 6. Nge2 d6 7. d3 Bg4 8. Qg3 h6 9. f4 Qe7 Larsen vs Portisch, 1966 10. Nd5 Nxd5 11. Qxg4 Ne3 12. Bxe3 Bxe3 as giving white a slight advantage.
|Nov-03-03|| ||euripides: I wonder if after 4 Qg4 g6 5 Qg3 White can not put the Black kingside under more pressure. The idea is to work for Bh6 stopping castling, and if 5...Nf6 6 d3 0-0 than White could work up some attack with Bg5/h6 and h4.Admittedly Black might escape with Q-side castling. |
|Nov-03-03|| ||thesonicvision: i saw this with the "euripides: 13 Ne7+ Nxe7 14 Bxf7 mate also works"
variation almost immediately. |
|Nov-03-03|| ||unclewalter: black's 9th is just amazingly horrible |
|Nov-15-03|| ||patzer2: <unclewalter> Agree that 9...Nf6 is not good for black. And after 9...Nf6 and 10. Rxf6, I suppose the point is 10. ..gxf6 11. Bh6+ Ke8 12. Qg7+-|
However, what should black have played instead of 9...Nf6, as 10. Rxf7+ Kxf7 11. Nxb6 was threatened?
|Dec-29-05|| ||THE pawn: So many things work on 11.?
Actually, what I saw was: Rxf7+! Kxf7 Nxc7+ ( and not Nxb6) Kf8 Qf3+ Ke8 or Ke7 Qf7+ Kd8 Bg5+ Ne7 Qxe7# but it seems there was something a lot quicker.
|Jul-08-07|| ||Whitehat1963: What an amazing and entertaining miniature! What a combination!|
|Nov-15-11|| ||AnalyzeThis: This is a wonderfully entertaining game.|
|Jan-03-12|| ||King Death: When Black avoided this old trap 4...Qf6 (which I saw a player rated around 1900 fall into back about 1969) I wonder how much he saw. Knowing Vik the Terrible, probably a lot: A Hennings vs Korchnoi, 1969.|