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| SamuelS: <DWINS>, 33. Rxf6 looks winning. Still, Black can play after 33...gxf6 34. Qe6+ Kf8 35. Qxf6+ Ke8. Can you give the continuation, which I cannot see right now? |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| trumbull0042: I always love how the puzzle position gradually takes shape. |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| trumbull0042: I don't understand 17. Nd4 exd4 18. Bxd4 Rg8 (maybe). Is that to prevent black from ever castling? |
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| jahhaj: <SamuelS> Simply 36. xh8+ which leaves White material up and Black's king still under attack. |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| Archerforthelord: 17. Nd4 exd4 18 Bxd4 then if white plays Rg8, 18... Qe3 Bc8(Other moves allow white to regain the piece or mate in one) 19 Bb6 regains the piece plus another to avoid the mate |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| coolthing76: Nice Puzzle. <al wazir> are you Arabian? |
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| Richard Taylor: my line was 32 Rf7 Kf7 33 Qe6+ Kf8 34. Bg6 Qc7 35. d6 but I missed Qc4 I also missed 36. Re1 which is decisive. Not too good today for me! After 32 Rf7 black has Bf6 but then 33. R:f6 I suppose
I only looked at this for a few minutes it is late and cold -well I cant say I solved this one -another one tommorow - very interesting problem -not really too hard but requiring accuracy |
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| jahhaj: <Richard Taylor> Don't be so hard on yourself, White is still winning after 35.d6 c4, it just not as elegant as the game solution. I'm sure if you had reached the position at move 35 you would have looked again and found 35. e1, who knows maybe even Ivkov did this. |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| EmperorAtahualpa: Nice puzzle! I only got the first two moves right..
<sibilare> I was thinking the same, but indeed, like <ThomYorke> said, White's response to 19...O-O would probably be 20. xh6! Black's weak kingside defense could (unless I am missing something) then be defeated by: 19...O-O 20.xh6 gxh6 21.fxe5 c8 22. f1!  g5 23. xg5 hxg5 24. xg5+  h8 25. h6+ g8 26. g7# |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| wgb: 35.d6? |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| Sydro: 30.Rxf7+ would work too. |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| Castle In The Sky: <EmperorAtahualpa> Thanks for the analysis, I was thinking about the 19....f8 problem as well. I also thought that 29...g5+ followd by 30...c4 might have been a mistake as the check achieves very little and then the queen moves removes all protection from e5 pawn and sets up the winning combination. Black was looking for play on the queenside when white's position was solid. |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| oned3r3r: on move 9 is there a trap? if 9... Nd4 10.Qd4 e5 which puts white a piece down? |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| mymt: <oned3r3r> no 11.Bxe5 dxe5 12.Qxd8# |
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| YouRang: I didn't get it, but I should have.
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| oned3r3r: thanks mymt i didn't see that |
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| al wazir: <coolthing76: are you Arabian?> No. |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| farrooj: <al wazir>, the name sounds arabic...
Anyway, this has a nice theme, it's a very good way to destroy the shield
f7 is a white square, the Bishop is white-squared, so there might be a mate on f7... (well, that's how I would have thought of it) |
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| al wazir: <farooj> "Wazir" is a form of "vizier." It's the title of a minister in the government and the name of the queen in chess. The Russian name for the queen, ferz', comes from it. |
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| Jul-15-05 |
| vangogh228: Sure seems to me that 32) ... Bf6 kind of stalls the attack. Based on that, I didn't get this puzzle. You have to assume that Black takes the Rook, which I think isn't the bast move. |
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| patzer2: With 32. Rxf7!, White demolishes a bit of pawn structure for a winning combination. White's follows up to quickly finish with 35. Re1!, which decides the game with a powerful double attack for multiple mate possibilities. |
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| midknightblue: AFter 17. Nd4, black did not respond with exd4 winning the knight. Is there some winning follow up for white, if black takes that knight with exd4? |
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Jul-16-05
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| al wazir: <vangogh228> After 32...Bf6 white plays 33. Qe6, threatening Rxf6. |
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| Jul-16-05 |
| Archerforthelord: midknight read my earlier posting |
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| midknightblue: <Archer> Thx Archer. Trying to visualize that line, and I thought 19....Kf8 and black was still up a piece for a pawn. I am doing it in my head, am I missing something? |
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