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Bent Larsen vs Borislav Ivkov
"Supersymmetry Theory" (game of the day Jun-05-04)
Palma de Mallorca 1967  ·  English Opening: Symmetrical Variation. Full Symmetry Line (A38)  ·  1-0
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Jun-05-04
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  crafty: 13...Bf5 14. Rb3 Rb6 15. Ne5 Qc8 16. Qd2 Qe6 17. Nxc6 =   (eval 0.29; depth 14 ply; 1000M nodes)
Jun-05-04
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  vonKrolock: Larsen quotes a Stein-Filip game from Moscow '67, in which almost the same position ocurred (black Pawn in d6 instead of d7)and "now Filip broke the simmetry" <...> "Ivkov is almost forced to accept the position Filip rejected" - from 'Larsen's Selected Games 1948-69'
Jun-05-04
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  vonKrolock: PS: after 12.d4, off course
Jun-05-04
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  kevin86: Symmatry almost always favors white,because he moves first. Two exceptions-when black is on the move,due to a tempo loss by white. The second is in a zugzwang position.
Jun-06-04
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  drukenknight: how does it follow that symmetry favors white simply because he moves first? He moves first in all the games, he doesnt win all games. Dont you need a more cogent explanation?
Jun-08-04
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  kevin86: I said that it favors white,not necessarily that he has a won game. Note that white has a definite advantage over black in win/loss/tie averages. To favor white means that he has the advantage,even if it is very small one.

It is not always a case of "Black and white" (Capitalization and pun intended)

Feb-06-05
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  aw1988: What a hurricane!
Oct-26-07  sfm: The opening position is symmetrical and in White's favor.

That Black should get _further_ disadvantage by keeping the position symmetrical need not be the truth, but it will often be. As things "open up" and pieces become more active the importance of striking first becomes higher.

Brain teaser: What is the shortest possible fully symmetrical game where the last move is White mating Black?

Dec-11-08  peristilo: Every decent player knows that symmetry favors white since he is always one move ahead. It doesnt mean white wins always in symmetrcal positions.
Dec-11-08  ughaibu: Sfm: Five moves? e4, d4, Bg5, dxe5, Qxd8.
Mar-15-11  ForeverYoung: Dazzling finish by the mighty Larsen starting with Bxg6+!! winning a pawn and Rc5 getting all of his pieces into the attack.
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