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Gata Kamsky vs Alexey Shirov
"You Shirov That?" (game of the day Jun-23-15)
Ch World (team) (1993)  ·  Semi-Slav Defense: Botvinnik System (D44)  ·  0-1
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Aug-07-03  PVS: Is there something better than 20. Nxb5 to prevent black's onslaught on moves 20, 21 and 22?
Aug-07-03  Ashley: Both the bishop and knight capturing the pawn on d5 looks even worse.
Aug-07-03  PVS: <Both the bishop and knight capturing the pawn on d5 looks even worse.>

I agree, has anyone looked at 20.g4?

Aug-07-03
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  refutor: <has anyone looked at 20.g4>

shirov has slightly...

"..neither 20.Bxd5 Nxd5 21.Nxd5 Qa6, threatening 22. ... Qxa2 and 22. ... Rd6; nor 20.Nxd5 Bxd5 21.Bxd5 c3! with the idea of 22.b3 c4! 23.bxc4? c2! 24.Qxc4 Nxc4 offers White much hope; but probably his best chance was still 20.g4"

Apr-04-06
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  Jim Bartle: Shirov: "...obviously the golden moment for me in the Botvinnik variation."

27...Kd7
"It's bizarre that although White has no less than ten discovered checks with his bishop, they are all worthless because of 28...Nxd1+. The double checks don't help either."

Apr-04-06  iamverywellatchess: 32.Kd2 is the next play. A very easy one today!
Nov-03-06  PolishPentium: I'm surprised by the comment 'The double checks don't help either.' Wouldn't 28 Bc6++ (double-check) be of use? The Black king of course must move, so if it takes the B at c6, 29 QxRf6+ and White can fight on. Contrariwise, if the Black K on move 28... doesn't take, but instead plays Kb7, then Re7+, and White can still take the f6 Rook later with its Q.

Of course, no doubt one of you wiser than i am can expose the flaws in my analysis. Please do so, if i have erred. Thank you.

Nov-03-06  PolishPentium: 'iamverywellatchess': Excuse me for saying this, but isn't 32 Kd2 an illegal move? Surely you mean 32 Ke2, in which case 32...Re8+ or Re6+. White can wiggle around for a while (B or Q interpositions at e4, for example), but basically he's doomed.
Dec-29-06  TheBB: <Of course, no doubt one of you wiser than i am can expose the flaws in my analysis. Please do so, if i have erred. Thank you.>

28. Bc6+ Kxc6 29. Qxf6+ Kb5 leads to mate (my Fritz can't seem to decide how fast ... it's mate in 11 at one move and mate in 7 on the next ply?), although a very tricky one. But it's hard for Shirov not to win.

Nov-21-08  dwavechess: 24/30 moves by shirov concur with rybka 2.3.2a at 14 ply
Apr-14-09  dwavechess: concur 22/31 using Rybka 3 at 3 min. per move for shirov
Mar-07-12  Mudphudder: Wow, amazing. Loved the tactics in this one.
Mar-08-12
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  HeMateMe: This must have been in "Fire On Board", with all of the notes. Great game, deep stuff. Both players would have been around 16 years old?
Mar-08-12  I play the Fred: Kamsky was 18-19 then, Shirov 21-22.
Apr-12-13  Zenagg: This looks like a kasparov game, beautiful play.
Oct-07-14  SpiritedReposte: It is a rare game when you can just disregard discovered check like that.

Blacks king just takes a stroll through the middle of the board with Whites rooks on the e and d files.

Had to be frustrating for Kamsky.

Jun-23-15  mravikiran: you sure of that?
Jun-23-15  morfishine: Great game, I'd almost forgotten about it. The Botvinnik always gave me the willies
Jun-23-15
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  kevin86: Nice attack by black, though hindered by his own double pawns
Jun-23-15  mruknowwho: I wonder if there was a better continuation than 28. Qh3. One interesting try would have been 28. Be6+.
Jun-23-15  scormus: It's hard to accept that W is totally lost at move 28. You/I would think Be6+ would get him some play, but the engine confirms nothing better than Qh3, and W in double digit minus.

Nonetheless, great play by Shurov, I mean Shirov ;)

Jun-23-15
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  AylerKupp: <<mruknowwho> I wonder if there was a better continuation than 28. Qh3.>

Well, as Fischer said, "White can always play differently, in which case he merely loses differently". In this case there is a forced mate for Black regardless of what White plays after 37...Kd7. So I suppose that the definition of "better" is the move that postpones the mate the longest.

Here is what Stockfish 6 found for the "top" 10 White moves at d=31 (I won't bother listing the lines but I could if anyone is interested):

28.Qh3, Black mates in 16
28.Re7+, Black mates in 12,
28.Be6+, Black mates in 11
28.Qxc8+, Black mates in 11
28.Kc2, Black mates in 10
28.Bc6+, Black mates in 10
28.Re2, Black mates in 10
28.Bxb7+, Black mates in 10
28.Rd4, Black mates in 9
28.Qd8+, Black mates in 8

Jun-23-15  RandomVisitor: White can go on the offensive:


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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.98] d=20 16.Ne4 Qe5> 17.Bg2 Rg6 18.dxe6 0-0-0 19.0-0-0 Rxe6 20.Rhe1 Qc7 21.Nd6+ Qxd6 22.Bxb7+ Kc7 23.Rxe6 Qxd2+ 24.Rxd2 fxe6 25.Ba6 Rb8 26.a4 c3 27.bxc3 bxa4 28.h4 Nf6 29.Ra2 Ne4 30.Rxa4 Nxc3 31.Ra3

Jun-23-15  RandomVisitor: Shirov vs Kamsky, 1987
Jun-23-15  RandomVisitor:


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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.86] d=22 16.Ne4 Qf3> 17.Nd6+ Ke7 18.Nxb7 Rh5 19.d6+ Ke8 20.Rg1 Re5+ 21.Be2 a5 22.h4 a4 23.Kf1 Qxb7 24.Qh6 Nf8 25.Qh8 Rxe2 26.Kxe2 Qe4+ 27.Kf1 Qd5 28.Qc3 Nd7 29.Ke2 Ne5 30.Rgd1

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