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|Feb-29-08|| ||Abejorral: This game is a fantasy, when Kamsky wants he can really play awesome !!|
|Mar-08-08|| ||mistreaver: The good all botvinnik system. Too bad it isn't employed nowadays games in it are so entartaining and fighting|
|May-13-08|| ||sfairat: I play this opening a lot with white and it's hard to believe that at top level someone like Kramnik could mess up like that. There are two mistakes that he made in the opening:
1) Took the c4 pawn.
2) Didn't recapture the pawn at f6.
|Jul-25-08|| ||Woody Wood Pusher: Conde de Montecristo has some AMAZING GAME COLLECTIONS! I particularly like the Kramnik collection EVERYONE NEEDS TO SEE IT!|
GOOD WORK MY FRIEND!
|Jul-26-08|| ||Granny O Doul: <Jim Bartle: This opening line with the queen sacrifice was already known, so Kramnik could (or did) be aware of that, computer or no computer. (I think an American IM had used it.)>|
Correct, Jay Bonin played it against Eric Cooke in 1986 or 7. Maybe it was published in the NY State mag at the time or maybe it's just gone, as Bonin does not keep many (or perhaps any) scoresheets and Cooke's was in bitty pieces by the time the result was posted on the pairing sheet.
|Feb-18-09|| ||jessicafischerqueen: Er... What's up with the "annotation"?
(because it is purely descriptive- no actual analysis or explanation)
|Feb-18-09|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: My favorite move of this astounding game is 23.Nc3, because Kamsky had to analyze all of the means by which Black might *decline* the sacrifice.|
|Feb-18-09|| ||jessicafischerqueen: Good Morning:
Check this out- I don't think the sacrifice has ever been declined in our database-
|Feb-18-09|| ||jessicafischerqueen: Good Afternoon:
Also, check out this game in the same variation--
Look closely at the final position- which is not near any time control- and you tell me how this is <1-0> when Black has a TOTALLY WON POSITION.
Has to be a mistake in the game moves or the final game score?
<0-1> more like it.
If anyone can solve this <Dutch chess mystery> I will mail them a burrito:
J Maiwald vs Shabalov, 1992
|Feb-18-09|| ||Lutwidge: I'd just like to point out that this game was my sole shining moment as a member of the ICS (Internet Chess Server) peanut gallery commentary as this game was being broadcast, as I somehow noticed and predicted 28. Bc1(!!), not that anyone of course bothered to believe me.|
Thus, this game not only represents a milestone in Kamsky's chess development, but also the pinnacle of my admittedly not over-glorious kibitzing career. So, er, there. :)
|Feb-18-09|| ||kevin86: The rook and two bishops more than make up for the queen.|
|Feb-18-09|| ||Yerbamate: Hello. I can't see right now who wins with 21...Kb8 variation. Looks its black with the two pawns near to 1st row.|
|Feb-18-09|| ||cgnascim: After this game...Kamsky could be the next player for the crown....|
|Feb-18-09|| ||WhiteRook48: Gata sacrifice so much|
|Feb-18-09|| ||hedgeh0g: What a beautiful game. Games like these always inspire me.|
|Feb-18-09|| ||Jim Bartle: I think this had all been played before (pioneered by an American IM) until 23. Nc3! Great stuff.|
|Feb-18-09|| ||Travis Bickle: What a masterpiece by Kamsky!!|
|Mar-19-09|| ||beast8: <Gata Go Now> hee hee hee
Kamsky pwns Drawnik and runs :-D :-D|
|Oct-16-09|| ||WhiteRook48: before Drawnik can get revenge|
|May-03-10|| ||James Bowman: What a master piece this one is. Kramnik was so out classed I feel for him. I guess I never gave Kamsky his do, when he plays a good one it is very good indeed and Kramnik is very hard to beat by anyone.|
|May-25-10|| ||HeMateMe: Fun to revisit this one!|
|Sep-29-10|| ||Check It Out: crazy cool game|
|Nov-26-10|| ||sevenseaman: Great chess! This game is full of good moves; they kept coming.|
|Nov-26-10|| ||GilesFarnaby: I think the novelty here is 24...Bc5, up until then they were following known theory (Salov-Illescas from a year before)|
So, yes, Kramnik put a novelty on the board just to blunder 3 moves after with 27...Rb8 (27...Bxe3 would have probably held) and now a lot of kibitzers praise Kamsky´s creativity and exalt his performance in this game because yeah! Who cares about historic perspective anyway?
|Jun-03-11|| ||Helloween: This is a great game and full of nice moves, but<GilesFarnaby> is correct: it is unfortunately mostly theory. Back in 1994 when this game was played, the first new move in the game was 24...Bc5. I agree that this game gets way too much praise for basically being a rehashed sac line that's been played dozens of times before. Kramnik made the novelty, got a tad careless and blundered in a very sharp position . If anything, Kamsky was playing drawishly here, yet the exact opposite is touted and he's praised for this game!|
Sometimes chess players are very myopic.
Anyways, this line is considered fine for Black now after 21.Kb8!
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