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|Nov-21-02|| ||drukenknight: well let me actually set this up and see what it looks like: |
23 axb5 Qa2 24 Nxc4 Qxc4 25 b6
okay is that better?
|Nov-21-02|| ||Cyphelium: Yes. I think I have to play 26.-a6 in that case. Looks like pawn d3 is getting strong now. |
|Nov-22-02|| ||drukenknight: a6? Id thought you go with d3 |
|Nov-22-02|| ||Cyphelium: If you play 25.b6 it seems like a bad idea for black to a/ open up the lines down to his king b/let white take his pawn on a7
So that's why I play 25.-a6 |
|Nov-06-04|| ||iron maiden: The database says that Karpov beat Miles 13-1 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...)|
But in addition to this Miles victory, there's Thursday's Game of the Day, Karpov vs Miles, 1980. Was this game rapid, maybe?
|Nov-06-04|| ||ray keene: this game was played for tv and never rated. i have also supplied notes to it which admin are welcome to put up here. |
|Nov-06-04|| ||iron maiden: <ray keene> Thanks. I take it it was rapid, then. |
|Nov-06-04|| ||ray keene: i think they had an hour each for all their moves-or something like that for a tv format. hoewever due to a tv technicians strike the game was never screened. whatever the time limit was in those days this game was unrateable-so this is miles forgotten win v karpov. |
|Dec-01-04|| ||EnglishOpeningc4: karpov must really hate miles first the ...a6 game and now this |
|Dec-02-04|| ||euripides: Karpov looks like a weak player in this game. If one didn't know the players, one might guess a 200-point Elo gap in Black's favour. Extraordinary. |
|Dec-02-04|| ||ray keene: chessgames admin have my notes to this game-if you are nice to them they might put them up-cheers |
|Mar-09-05|| ||mcgee: The time limit for this was two hours for the first forty moves and one hour thereafter. The game may not have been rated by FIDE but it is hardly as if they were doing TV-friendly one-hour quickplay. In ' The Complete Chess Addict ' (1988), Short's first win over Kasparov at OHRA in 1986 is described as ' only the fourth time this century a British player has beaten the world champion ' (implying that this Miles victory was valid along with Karpov v Miles Skara 1980 and Penrose v Tal, Leipzig Olympiad 1960). |
This game was the finale of a tournament with eight players split into two groups playing a round-robin format whereby they played each other twice. I think there might have been the same time limit for the group games. More so than the previous Master Game tournaments, this one had the feel of a genuine small tournament rather than one conspicuously tailored for TV. Don't know about this being Miles' forgotten win against Karpov - if you were a Brit chess enthusiast in the 1980s, it was very hard to forget, even though the game was never broadcast.
|Jun-01-05|| ||WMD: Karpov was in desperate time trouble, having around a minute left to make 14 moves to avoid losing on time. He didn't make it.|
|Mar-23-06|| ||AlexanderMorphy: no Karpov loves Miles...he won 13 and lost 2 against him(this one actually being unrated!)|
|Aug-22-09|| ||zatara: Did they lost the notes or weren't we nice enough..?|
|Aug-22-09|| ||ray keene: i have rescued the players comments and live footage to this game from the german edition which was broadcast and i have translated the notes into english for an english dvd called <great british chess triumphs>-it can be ordered from malcolm peins chess emporium or the uscf house of staunton in the usa i believe|
|Jun-08-10|| ||wordfunph: Anatoli Karpov - Anthony Miles, Bath (England) 1983
click for larger view
Analysis by Rybka 2.2n2 mp 32-bit:
1. = (0.00): 28.Rexb7 Bxc5+ 29.Bf2 Bxf2+ 30.Kxf2 Qxa4 31.Qg4+ f5 32.Qg7
2. = (0.00): 28.Rxf7 Bxc5+
3. (-0.63): 28.Rbxb7 Bxe7 29.Rxe7 Qc6 30.Bf2 Nd4 31.Bxd4 Rxd4 32.Nb3
i watched this game on video awhile back..
28.Rbxb7?...Anatoly simply missed 28.Rexb7 which resulted to 0-1 for Miles..
|May-05-12|| ||rilkefan: <? 32 Rxf5 was obvious and good. <Karpov must have been in a state of panic.>>|
Why not simply write "Zeitnot" full stop?
|May-05-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: GG
|May-05-12|| ||lost in space: SG
|May-05-12|| ||kevin86: A crazy game...|
|May-05-12|| ||Domdaniel: Of course Karpov had a plus score against Miles. He had a plus score against practically everyone in those days, certainly against 'Western' players - something that lasted until Nigel Short's match victory in the 1990s.|
Only Kasparov seriously challenged Karpov's dominance in the 1980s, and yet their overall results remained close for years: it took Kasparov until the 1990s to pull significantly ahead.
What's fascinating, though, is the difference between Karpov-Miles and Kasparov-Miles encounters. Karpov lost twice with black against supposedly dubious opening systems (the St George and this version of the Caro). He tended to err on the side of caution, whereas Kasparov simply swept Miles aside: as seen in his 5.5/0.5 match win, and Tony's comment about "an octopus ... who sees everything".
Deep down, I think the Karpov of this era (1975-85) just didn't believe that world-class GMs existed outside the Soviet system. Nor did he accept that an opening variation deemed inferior by Soviet analysts should be used against him.
Tony's victories may have been occasional, but they were profoundly shocking to the loser.
|May-05-12|| ||maxi: I would like to thank both CG and R. Keene for a great game and comments. Wonderful job.|
|May-07-12|| ||Domdaniel: <ray keene> I agree with the comment by <maxi> -- these are really good notes, which illuminate a fascinating game. You combine detailed analysis, where appropriate, with anecdotal details that give us a sense of watching the game in real time. Good stuff.|
|Aug-15-12|| ||perfidious: <Domdaniel: Karpov....tended to err on the side of caution, whereas Kasparov simply swept Miles aside: as seen in his 5.5/0.5 match win, and Tony's comment about "an octopus ... who sees everything"....>|
Therein lay part of the problem: to take your comparison one step farther, rightly or wrongly, Miles felt his best chance was to steer for murky positions against Karpov, though the latter's tactical clearheadedness usually enabled him to steer clear of the shoals.
Miles' approach was, however, doomed to failure against Kasparov: there may never have been anyone greater at steering their way through complex middlegames, for all Kasparov's renowned opening preparation in razor-sharp lines.
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