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Garry Kasparov vs Anatoly Karpov
"Take the a-Train" (game of the day Mar-22-13)
Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1984)  ·  Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15)  ·  0-1
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Mar-22-13  goodevans: <morfishine: - its seems a considerable number of these puns are not chess-related...>

I'm happy as long as the pun relates in some way to the game. I guess today's is a reference to moves 47 to 43 when the a-pawn steams down the track, but I grant you it's a bit tenuous.

Mar-22-13  Everett: <goodevans: <morfishine: - its seems a considerable number of these puns are not chess-related...> I'm happy as long as the pun relates in some way to the game. I guess today's is a reference to moves 47 to 43 when the a-pawn steams down the track, but I grant you it's a bit tenuous.>

Hilarious. Take your own advice and look at the the previous six pages, and maybe a closer look at the game itself.

Mar-22-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  morfishine: <Everett> Take it easy on the guy; Its obvious the 'A'-train refers to the a-pawn...duhhh...The problem lies in connecting the pun to a song written 74 years ago...
Mar-22-13  goodevans: <morfishine> Thanks, but I'm big enough to take something like that on the chin. <Everett> has me bang to rights, although in my defence I'd point out that I never asked what the pun was about, merely posited a guess. I have to admit, though, that the juxtaposition lends some comic effect.
Mar-22-13  Shams: I haven't read the previous six pages but my guess would be that the pun refers to the arrangement of pieces on the a-file after Black's 20th.
Mar-22-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sneaky: You say <a song written 74 years ago> as if that's a bad thing. It's a jazz staple, and it's immortal. Just like Bach, Mozart, and Stephen Foster.

About the game: Am I the only one who was hoping for 21...Ra8 just for the sheer comedic value?

Mar-22-13
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  WannaBe: <Willber G> Go to http://www.k4it.de/index.php?topic=... and input the position.
Mar-22-13  Everett: I could have posted something much nicer. I wish I wasn't such a jerk at times on this site, right or wrong.

Apologies for being rough around the edges (and maybe through the middle, too).

Mar-22-13
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  Abdel Irada: Remarkable to consider that White was actually a pawn *up* after 57. Rxh6, but appears to lose by force.
Mar-22-13
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  waustad: outside passer -> king position -> win.
It doesn't matter if they are two of the all time best or schnooks like me, that combination usually works when material is getting sparse. Of course it is easier without the rooks.
Jun-09-13  tzar: This endgame is outstanding...maybe it was an adjournment or Karpov remembered a similar one of the past. Otherwise it is not humanly possible to do so many accurate moves in a row and give this wonderful chess lesson to no other than Kasparov.
Oct-02-13  Mateo: According to Karpov, this Rook ending is winning for Black. However, I wonder if there could be some improvements for White. For instance, 49.Kb1 (to free the Rook). Karpov says that 49...Rb8+ 50.Ka1 Rb2 51.Rxa3 Rxf2 52.Ra6 Rf6! wins for Black. But 52.h3 should be considered. How does Black win?
Nov-09-13  bkpov: Karpov is my idol. His games are really enlightening. In the pursuit of the most correct play, he used to create myriad of complication. In fact he was playing against himself- his greatest shortcoming.
Nov-18-13  Rama: I remember a funny comment on this game: "After 20. ... Qa5, black threatens 21. ... Ra8."
Nov-18-13
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  perfidious: <Everett>: There have been times I wished the self-delete feature lasted longer than one hour on posts outside one's own forum page. It has crossed my mind that, perhaps, I should blow the whistle on a few of my posts!
May-28-14  Dobril: I think if a match between Fischer and Kasparov would have been held in the beginning of the 1980s, Bobby would have won, his endgame playing was far more superior than Garry`s at that time.
May-28-14
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  AylerKupp: <Dobril> But, as Tarrasch said, "Before the endgame, the Gods have placed the middle game". Fischer would first have to reach a playable endgame against Kasparov.
May-28-14  Dobril: He could surely do that plenty of games. Not necessary to remind that his middle game was also superior and even better than Karpov`s.
Oct-10-14  yurikvelo: Stockfish deep evaluate:
http://goo.gl/jHvl34
Apr-01-15  wassimgh: Why didnt ksparov take aposition when karpov played B a6 its rather weak
Apr-01-15  Trouble: Karpov is brutal in this game...makes Gary look like an amateur.
Apr-01-15  Trouble: < Dobril: I think if a match between Fischer and Kasparov would have been held in the beginning of the 1980s, Bobby would have won, his endgame playing was far more superior than Garry`s at that time. >

< AylerKupp: <Dobril> But, as Tarrasch said, "Before the endgame, the Gods have placed the middle game". Fischer would first have to reach a playable endgame against Kasparov. >

A match between Fischer and Kasparov would have been strange. Fischer was the best at using his calculating ability to simplify into technical positions where he had the advantage. Kasparov was the best at using his calculating ability to find surprising tactical ideas in the midst of combinations which his opponents were likely to miss. It's also interesting to note that their choices of defense were identical and that they both opted to play sharp and dynamic opening lines whenever possible. Of course, one must assume that Fischer would have an equal level of knowledge about opening theory relative to Kasparov when the match was undertaken. If we assume the match would have taken place in the early to mid 80's, I think Kasparov with White might have the advantage in King's Indian positions because the positional complexity suits Kasparov's playing style better and also because a good antidote to the Bayonet attack wasn't discovered until the early 2000's by Radjabov. In Gruenfeld positions, Bobby Fischer might have been better since Gruenfeld positions tend to be dynamic but more technical. Fischer as White would have certainly played e4 and a Najdorf defense or Scheveningin would have been likely(although Kasparov might have tried to switch his opening repertoire to confuse Fischer). I think by the mid 80's the Fischer Sozin variation was out of style but I could be wrong. The English attack was not known yet, so maybe they would have played a bunch if Najdorf's with Bg5...who knows. In any case they probably would have played some great games and it's hard to pick a favorite in these lines.

Aug-04-15  fisayo123: Almost identical endgame with a similar pawn structure and similar moves.

http://chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/9...

This was one of those pre-arranged games in this match, according to the great Bobby Fischer.

Aug-05-15
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  offramp: <fisayo123: Almost identical endgame with a similar pawn structure and similar moves. http://chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/9...

This was one of those pre-arranged games in this match, according to the great Bobby Fischer.>

That was mentioned here, Kasparov vs Karpov, 1984, on page 2.

Aug-24-15
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  der623: This may seem trivial, but after Karpov's 20th move, There are 7 pieces on the A file and 5 of them are Karpov's.
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