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Garry Kasparov vs Anatoly Karpov
"Take the a-Train" (game of the day Mar-22-2013)
Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1984), Moscow URS, rd 6, Sep-26
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15)  ·  0-1
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Aug-04-15  fisayo123: Almost identical endgame with a similar pawn structure and similar moves.

http://chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/9...

This was one of those pre-arranged games in this match, according to the great Bobby Fischer.

Aug-05-15
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  offramp: <fisayo123: Almost identical endgame with a similar pawn structure and similar moves. http://chesstempo.com/gamedb/game/9...

This was one of those pre-arranged games in this match, according to the great Bobby Fischer.>

That was mentioned here, Kasparov vs Karpov, 1984, on page 2.

Aug-24-15
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  der623: This may seem trivial, but after Karpov's 20th move, There are 7 pieces on the A file and 5 of them are Karpov's.
Sep-21-15
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  thegoodanarchist: This game is a demonstration of how Karpov won against Kasparov early in the match. Karpov, with either White or Black, rapidly gets his pieces more active than Kasparov's, and then wins material.

By denying Kasparov the initiative, Karpov neutralizes his opponent's best weapon.

Here is another example, Karpov's first win of the match:

Karpov vs Kasparov, 1984

Oct-16-15  seeminor: Incredible to realise that on move 69 for black Re3+!! is the quickest winning move eg 70.Kxe3 g1=Q or 70. Kd2 Rg3
Oct-16-15
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  offramp: <seeminor: Incredible to realise that on move 69 for black Re3+!! >

That was mentioned here, at www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1067139&kp- age=2#reply42.

Oct-17-15
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  beatgiant: <seeminor>,<offramp> I seem to be missing something. With 69...Re3+ 70. Kxe3 g1=Q+ Black gets a queen for a rook, but in the game line black will go up a whole rook, which is a larger material advantage. <quickest winning move> means you checked a tablebase and it leads to mate in fewer moves?
Oct-17-15  Howard: Either way, beatgiant, Karpov wins quickly. It's just a matter of taste.
Oct-17-15
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  beatgiant: <Howard>
I did check a tablebase, and <seeminor> and <offramp> are right that their line leads to mate in fewer moves. Karpov's choice is a more human preference (<rook vs nothing> is a little easier than <queen vs rook>).
Oct-17-15
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  offramp: <beatgiant: <Howard> I did check a tablebase, and <seeminor> and <offramp> are right ...>

However, I do agree with you that, "in the game line black will go up a whole rook, which is a larger material advantage," because for a human Q v R can be very tricky. But K+R v K is totally straightforward.

Kasparov would not, however, have tried out the World Champion's knowledge of Q v R if Karpov had played 69...Re3+, especially as I believe an adjournment was due at move 72.

So I believe Karpov played the best move, definitely the one that made his opponent resign the soonest.

Oct-18-15  Howard: Oh, I couldn't agree more ! As a computer demonstrated earlier that year, in 1984, when playing Q v R against the late Walter Browne, that ending can be a lot trickier than some people realize.

Karpov definitely made the smarter choice.

Oct-18-15  seeminor: Yeah 69.Re3+ is mate in 19 apparently,
70.Kxe3 g1=Q+
71.Ke2 Qg2+
72.Ke3 Qe3+
73.Ke4 Qf4+
74.Kd3 Qxf5+
75.Kc4 Qe4+
76.Kb3 Qd3+
77.Ka2 Qc2+
78.Ka3 Qc3+
79.Ka4 Qxh8
80.Kb4 Kf4
81.Kc4 Ke4
82.Kc5 Qe8
83.Kc4 Qc6+
84.Kb4 Kd3
85.Kb3 Qb6+
86.Ka3 Kc3
87.Ka2 Qb2#
Mar-25-16  mhand: I think that Kasparov missed a good opportunity to obtain a draw as follows:Rg8+Kh3(ifRg5-Rxg5+Kxg5-Kf2 wins the pawn.And ifKf4-Rxg2 draw).So the black must continue with Kh3 to protect the pawn so Rh8+Kg3-Rg8+Kh2-Rh8+Kg1 and now afterRg8 the white haven't to fear anything because their king controls the squares f2 and g2.If Re5+ Kf3 inhibits the black's king movement. And if Rf2+Ke1-Rf1+Ke2-Kh2 to release the pawn encounters again the rook's checks:Rh8+Kg3-Rg8+(if Kf4??Rxg2)Kh2-Rh8+Kg1 draw.
Mar-26-16
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  offramp: <mhand: I think that Kasparov missed a good opportunity to obtain a draw as follows:Rg8+Kh3(ifRg5-Rxg5+Kxg5-Kf2 wins the pawn.And ifKf4-Rxg2 draw).So the black must continue with Kh3 to protect the pawn so Rh8+Kg3-Rg8+Kh2-Rh8+Kg1 and now afterRg8 the white haven't to fear anything because their king controls the squares f2 and g2.If Re5+ Kf3 inhibits the black's king movement. And if Rf2+Ke1-Rf1+Ke2-Kh2 to release the pawn encounters again the rook's checks:Rh8+Kg3-Rg8+(if Kf4??Rxg2)Kh2-Rh8+Kg1 draw.>

Your idea is a very good one, but it can still be beaten by driving the white king away.

This is the final position:


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71.Rg8+ Kh3
72.Rh8+ Kg3
73.Rg8+ Kh2
74.Rh8+ Kg1
75.Rg8 ...


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75.... Re5+
76.Kf3 Rf5+
77.Kg4 Rf7Δ...♔f1


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If you play on from there you'll see that the black king can't be prevented from going to h1 or f1, followed by the pawn queening. The black manoeuvre is well known and is called <building a bridge>.

Apr-18-16  mhand: Thank you Mr Offramp for your comment,I didn't se it at all.Well your maneuver to bring away the white king from the square e2 is excellent,I agree with you 76...Rf5+ 77Kg4.Rf7 and now78Kh3?? loses after78...Kf1 79Rxg2...Rh7+! 80Kg3...Rg7+winning the rook.So the white will not play that and continue with:78Ra8(if 78...Kh1 79Rh8+...Kg1 again and if78...Kf1 79 Ra1+...Kf2 80Ra2+....And the pawn will never Queen.
May-01-16  Howard: By the way, it wasn't discovered until many years later (probably by a computer) that 56...Rh2 would also have won. The Informant, in fact, claims it only would have drawn.

But the books Anatoly Karpov: Endgame Virtuoso and also Karpov's Strategic Wins (Volume 1) both point out that 56...Rh2 would also have been good enough for the full point.

Jul-24-16
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  ajile: I just played through this opening and was hoping for 12..f5 but it didn't happen.

: /

Sep-08-16  PJs Studio: Beautifully played game by Karpov, but I'm impressed Kasparov lasted as long as he did with such a bad position. Almost held the half point.
Mar-21-17  paavoh: @ajile: <I just played through this opening and was hoping for 12..f5 but it didn't happen.> Karpov leaving a hole on e5 so early in the game?? Somehow I do not see it...
Apr-29-17  bkpov: Position after move 20? How many in data base
May-13-17  Zhbugnoimt: If you run this game through an engine, you will see that after 15...Nb6? 16.c5! White is already nearly winning, and that 25.Qh5! followed by Qe5 gives White a completely winning position. This is not an amazing display of Karpov's play; Karp played horribly (objectively speaking), and was lucky Kaspy didn't make use of his 5 pieces out of play on the a file.
May-22-18  Saniyat24: This game is amazing and unbelievably out worldly...!
Jun-18-18
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  Omnipotent00001: 57...Rg2 mates in 36 moves.
Jul-10-18  Everett: As stated before, 27.Nf5 is nearly decisive. Karpov’s play up to this point was provocative, aesthetic, yet apparently unsound.
Jul-10-18  Everett: 22..Qb6 is an improvement

This game mirrors many of the Ruy’s these two played over the years, with Karpov dominating the Q-side while seeing if Kasparov can get to the former’s king.

Karpov was a risky player in a way, a minimalist defender of his king while pressing for positional concessions elsewhere. Kasparov was one of the few (only?) players to punish him for it.

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