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Anatoli Karpov vs Garry Kasparov
Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Match 1984  ·  Queen's Gambit Declined: Three Knights Variation. General (D55)  ·  1-0


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Nov-06-06
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  Billy Ray Valentine: This game makes my misty-eyed. Does anyone know if it is annotated anywhere? Any help appreciated...
Nov-06-06
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  Billy Ray Valentine: Also, what is the losing move in this game?
Jan-28-07
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  positionalgenius: One of karpov's finest endgames ever.An elegant victory...
Jan-28-07   Kean: superb, Karpov in his element, players like him should live hundreds of years. These matches with Kasparov must have been really thrilling for the people who saw it, for the rest of us, pgn.
Feb-07-07   Bobwhoosta: <Billy Ray> First of all, Eddie Murphy right? I like the name. Second, I think what makes this game great is that to our dim eyes there are no obvious mistakes by Kasparov (aside from the possibility of playing bd7 on move 17 as mentioned earlier). The endgame is a superb duel, and the result of the game is determined by the continual outplaying of one player by the other.
Mar-23-07
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  Billy Ray Valentine: <Bobwhoosta: <Billy Ray> First of all, Eddie Murphy right? I like the name. Second, I think what makes this game great is that to our dim eyes there are no obvious mistakes by Kasparov (aside from the possibility of playing bd7 on move 17 as mentioned earlier). The endgame is a superb duel, and the result of the game is determined by the continual outplaying of one player by the other.>

<Bobwhoosta>, sorry for the slow response. Somehow, I missed your post. Yes, I picked the name Billy Ray Valentine for chessgames.com after Eddie Murphy's character in Trading Places (isn't my avatar perfect?!)--thanks for the kind words and recognizing my attempt attempt at being humorous with my screen name... Agree with your post completely, to include your post about Kasparov's 17th move... Make no mistake, this is my favorite chess game ever!

Mar-24-07   Fisheremon: <Billy Ray Valentine: Also, what is the losing move in this game?> It could be 17...Bb7 and 18...Bd5. Instead 17...f6!? with next Bd7 more flexible. Certainly 17.Rfc1 deserves (!!) for a very deep plan, cos' Black seemed to expect a more trivial 17.Rfd1 with a quick draw. White could accelerate his win as 29.e4! At any event one of the best game ever.
Apr-22-07   PAWNTOEFOUR: beautiful game,great endgame by karpov...when i got to the final position,i could understand why black resigned,being two pawns down....but i was curious to see how the game might have concluded.....1...h1=Q 2.bxh1 bb1 3.be4 ba2 4.rxa2 kg5 5.rg2+ kf4 6.bf5 rf8 7.rg8 rxg8 8.c8Q rg2 9Qc4+ Ke3 10.Qe4+ Kf2 11.Qc2+ kg1 12.Qxg2+.....and we've now reach a position that even i could win from...analysis by shredder classic,of course
Jun-06-07
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  Billy Ray Valentine: So just out of curiousity, what do the top computer programs suggest for White's 17th move? 17. Rfc1 is not a move I would have considered in this kind of position...
Sep-10-07   duplex: Karpov as a player is at the same level as Fischer or Kasparov. Some people underestimate him because his game and style sometimes lacking the breathtaking combinations we witness in Fischers and Kasparovs game..It doesnt change the fact that Anatoly is one of the 5 greatest player of post war era..
Sep-10-07   KamikazeAttack: <Karpov as a player is at the same level as Fischer or Kasparov. Some people underestimate him because his game and style sometimes lacking the breathtaking combinations we witness in Fischers and Kasparovs game..It doesnt change the fact that Anatoly is one of the 5 greatest player of post war era..>

Absolutely.

Sep-10-07   ikipemiko: After 23Bd1 Black is doomed. Great move and plan by Karpov!
Sep-10-07
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  acirce: Truly a great game.
Oct-29-07
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  notyetagm: Unbelievable that Karpov could win this even endgame.
Feb-28-08   analysethat: I understand that the difference in position was that white's bishop could defend the white c-pawn, but black's couldn't. But did Kasparov HAVE to lose the pawn or did he choose to sacrifice it for activity because he had problems with the idea of defending this ending? He needed a rook and knight to defend it. Perhaps I should go look up Speelman's analysis. These attacks in the endgame should get more exposure - I think that Alekhine used to give some great analysis by outlining the plan and its different phases ahead of time for the reader rather than providing just variations.
Apr-10-08   smarterthanbobby: nice...
Apr-11-08
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  Knight13: Karpov sensed that c5 pawn's gonna get killed. Played f3 to obstruct the bishop so he couldn't defend with ...Rc8. Ne1-d3 to have a dead aim on that poor guy. The fear of losing a-pawn placed Black's rooks in uncomfortable positions.

Very impressive.

May-20-08
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  blacksburg: 18. Kf1 is a nice little move as well. if 18.Rb5 Ba6 19.Rb2 Bxe2 20.Rxe2, white would much rather have his rook back on b1 than on e2. white prepares to recapture the bishop with the king and leave the rook on the b-file if black retains the option of ...Ba6 after Rb5. this is the kind of simple idea that i miss all the time.
Nov-01-08   Brown: Beim and perhaps others have pointed out that Karpov could have made his life much easier after fixing black's h-pawn on a light square with 37.h4 Bg4+ 38.Ke3. Kasparov makes a holy mess out of it, and Karpov's conversion of the point becomes that much more impressive.
Nov-01-08   newton296: karpov is the only player I know who could completely reorganize his pieces to get a single pawn and still somehow win the game .

of course i'm referring to 17 rc1 ! followed by moving his B and knight to eventually take down the c pawn ! that is unreal . lol

the whole plan looks ugly from the get go , but karpov somehow gets away with it .

kasparov must have laughed when he saw it !!

then cried when he lost .

Nov-01-08   newton296: this game is a great example of karpov's unique understanding of piece coordination !!

interesting and revealing game .

Nov-04-08   Andrijadj: This game reminds me of Kramnik's only victory against Anand in recent WCC...
Jan-29-09   Woody Wood Pusher: A fantastic game!

Karpov gives a simpler way to win as 37.h4!,Rf7 38.Ke3,Bg4 39.c5+,Kc6 40.Ba4+,Kc7 41.Be8,Rh7 42.Bg6,Rh6 43.Be4

and then after 43...a5 45.Bf3! and good night Garry!

Mar-12-09   WhiteRook48: ah, Kasparov is smashed
Apr-21-09   tranquil simplicity: Hello Good People? Without seeming impertinent i'd like to disagree with a common statement made by some of us within the Chess Community ie. '..that some people underestimate Karpov because of his style'. Well, in my opinion I believe Karpov to be the strongest player ever in the positional prophylactic style. The nature of this style is somewhat 'defense oriented' and thus can be quite passive and quiet. However the harmonious piece movement of this kind of style is elegant..and i might add that Karpov is one of the greatest chess chessplayers to walk the earth. So I do not underrate Karpov. However I am partial to combinative and energetic play like that of Marshall, Chigorin, Alekhine, Tal,Kasparov and Morozevich! It is just simply the style that attracts me! So we chessplayers who love combinations, aggression and attack do NOT underestimate Karpov, i believe it is simply that we prefer a type of Chess that Karpov is not really a practioner of (ie it not Karpov's natural game to attack and go into tactical combinations though i have no doubt that he can manage his way around a tactical melee as evidenced in his game with Topalov. But that is usually not his style.
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