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Anatoly Karpov vs Garry Kasparov
Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1984/85), Moscow URS, rd 47, Jan-30
Queen's Gambit Declined: Cambridge Springs Variation (D52)  ·  0-1
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Apr-07-07  Kangaroo: One of the two last games from their *unlimited* match that has show the total devastation of Karpov. That is why the match was interrupted after the next victory by Kasparov and the new match of 24 games was set up. Kasparov won it in November of 1985.
Apr-11-08  Knight13: <offramp: A crucial point about this game is that after 15...0-0 Kasparov offered a draw which Karpov declined.> Who wouldn't like White's position by that point?

22. c6?? is THE losing blunder. He must've saw something coming at him in the open file with that rook. But I don't see it because I'm not 2700.

Oct-22-08  Brown: <Kangaroo> This seems to be a game from the 85 match.
Oct-22-08  slomarko: <Brown> you are wrong. this is clearly the 47th game of the 1984/85 match. i recognise it.
Oct-22-08  Brown: <slomarko> I may be mistaken, but only because I've taken <chessgame's> lead by following the title of the event above. Doesn't say 84-85; merely 85. Perhaps they will change it.
Jan-29-09  ahmadov: I like to play these kinds of tricky games through Guess the Move... It teachs a lot...
Feb-22-09  Count Isouard III: I think 17. Bxg6 would give black a lot of chances on the open e & f files pointing to whites king.
May-17-10  arnab: 31. Nb1?? is the culprit. Now after the pawn is pushed, a Knight fork is unavoidable. He must have been under huge pressure to have played that.
Sep-07-11  indoknight: great pawn sacrifice from kasparov...
Oct-08-11  serenpidity.ejd: This game is entitled: OVER EXHAUSTION KNOWS NO CHESS. There is no doubt that the then World Champion Karpov was the stronger player during their first and aborted match with Kasparov. It was shown how easily he defeated Kasparov in the first half of the match. And then Kasparov changed strategy by just prolonging the match by drawing games. And the strategy worked.
This game is a convincing proof of how exhausted Karpov was. A very simple and uncomplicated game(as seen by an unrated and ordinary lover of the game like me) and yet Karpov lost! For me KARPOV was the winner of the match.
It was very very unfortunate for the Champ Anatoly that the previous 24 games limit was not retained.WHEW!!! .
Oct-08-11  I play the Fred: <And then Kasparov changed strategy by just prolonging the match by drawing games.>

You do know that Karpov had the option to not agree to those draws, right? He also had a chance to end the match in game 41, though of course the win would not have been easy - or even certain.

<There is no doubt that the then World Champion Karpov was the stronger player during their first and aborted match with Kasparov. It was shown how easily he defeated Kasparov in the first half of the match.>

Why does the second half of the match not matter? Karpov was +5=22 in the first 27 games, Kasparov was +3=18 in the last 21 games. Not as good as Karpov's half, but not far below it.

<This game is a convincing proof of how exhausted Karpov was.>

No one ever discusses the possibility that Kasparov was also very tired. Yes, Kasparov is younger, but Karpov was 33 then - not exactly ancient.

<It was very very unfortunate for the Champ Anatoly that the previous 24 games limit was not retained.>

Not at all - in fact, quite the opposite. Had the 24-game limit been in effect, Karpov wins the 1984 match 12.5-8.5 after 21 games (+4=17).

Jun-01-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF KASPAROV.
Your score: 56 (par = 53)

LTJ

Dec-15-12  morfishine: This game was the point that Karpov began to collapse physically
Feb-13-13  duplex: Great game from KASPAROV,not everyone can dominate KARPOV like that, from from beginning to end
Feb-13-13  RookFile: Capa used to throw in an early Bxf6 in these lines. Games like this make you see why, that dark squared bishop of white's was an innocent bystander for much of this game.
Oct-06-14  yurikvelo: 31. Nb1 ??
Karpov was exhausted.
Oct-06-14  Petrosianic: <I play the Fred>: <You do know that Karpov had the option to not agree to those draws, right?>

Of course. But what's your point? If you're suggesting that Kasparov didn't adopt such a strategy, you might want to play those games over again.

<No one ever discusses the possibility that Kasparov was also very tired. Yes, Kasparov is younger, but Karpov was 33 then - not exactly ancient.>

Stamina has always been regarded as a particular weakness of Karpov's. Lots of people have discussed how tired Kasparov may have been. You must have missed it. But the general feeling is that exhaustion hit Karpov harder, and the evidence of the games themselves seems to confirm that.

<Had the 24-game limit been in effect, Karpov wins the 1984 match 12.5-8.5 after 21 games (+4=17).>

Obviously not, since most of Games 10-24 would not have been GM draws had a 24 game limit been in effect. Although the odds are that Karpov would probably have won with such a lead, it's absurd to assume that the games would have had the exact same moves, lengths and results.

Oct-08-14  Howard: Oh, I couldn't agree more ! If the 24-game limit had been in effect for that match, God only knows what would have happened. In other words, Karpov would not necessarily have jumped to a 4-point lead after only nine games !
Feb-22-15
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  gezafan: The 48 game match was a result of Fisher's unrealistic unlimited match concept.

The Capablanca - Alekhine match is another example of why the unlimited match concept is a bad one.

Feb-22-15
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  plang: <The Capablanca - Alekhine match is another example of why the unlimited match concept is a bad one.>

Why?

What about the Karpov - Korchnoi match - the format worked there.

Feb-23-15  Petrosianic: <plang> <Why?

What about the Karpov - Korchnoi match - the format worked there.>

Because the format doesn't work reliably. It's not a strong enough endorsement to say "It's only a disaster SOME of the time."

I assume you're talking about Karpov-Korchnoi 1981. The 1978 match was the 3rd longest championship match ever.

Apr-21-15
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  kevin86: The rook can move, but the knight fork will grab a bishop. PAYDIRT!
Jun-10-17
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  offramp: This match had begun in early September, 1984. This game took place on the 8th February 1985, roughly 5 months later.

No organization can afford to host a 5 month chess event, with all its hotels and food and room hire - and there was no end in sight!

The players were still in good health. No player is going to get tired playing an average of 9 very short games a month.

So FIDÉ was already thinking about saving some money and terminating the match. Definitely the right decision.

Jun-10-17  Howard: True, but the "organization" in this case was almost certainly the Soviet government. It certainly could have afforded all the expenses of the match.

Yes, terminating the match was probably the right call...but Campos' timing was very questionable. Calling off the match after Kasparov had just won two straight, almost inevitably guaranteed questions from suspicious parties.

He probably should have waited a few more games before doing so, and then made a decision.

Mar-10-19
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  HeMateMe: This is the game that triggered 'Karpo-manes' to step in and annul the match. Communist party boy Karpov was drowning and needed a hand. When you're an Azerbaijani half Jew in the USSR, well, you get in back of the bus, so to speak.
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