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Anatoly Karpov vs Garry Kasparov
Karpov-Kasparov World Championship Rematch (1986)  ·  Gruenfeld Defense: Russian. Prins Variation (D97)  ·  1-0
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Nov-24-04
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  lostemperor: Did Kasparov wrote a book about this match?
Nov-24-04
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  offramp: Yes, this one: London-Leningrad Championship Games: Rematch Championship Games With Annotations by the World Champion (Pergamon Russian Chess Series) by Garry Kasparov, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...
Nov-21-06  wintep: Kasparov must have have felt uncomfortable after this game, completing 3 straight wins from Karpov and tying the match. A little like Karpov must have felt after the 2 straight wins from Kasparov in their first match.
Apr-06-08
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  aazqua: This reall is an incredible game by Karpov. His pieces always seem to be in the right place and everything just works out in the end.
Apr-09-08
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  sallom89: Karpov wins by this opening is weird! and it works somehow, good game.
Jul-22-08  bravado1: Everyone praises Karpov's endgame technique, but Kortchnoi was of a different mind. Karpov was labeled so very early in his career and now everone seeks only the games where Karpov's endgame superiority is shown. He, however, made also a lot of mistakes in endgames. It seems that Karpov's biggest asset was his great opening preparation combined with deep understanding of a given position. As to endgames, I think Smyslov was almost w/out a flaw. When it comes to squeezing points out of nearly better positions Botvinnik was considered the best. Anyway, that's what Kortchnoi, Unzicker and others say. I'm much below this level of chess, so I can't argue.
Jul-22-08  Everett: All the greatest chess players have great tactical awareness, positional understanding, cool-headedness and strong technique.

What I find makes Karpov unique (not necessarily better) is his ability to play into middlegame positions that seemed to respond to endgame principles. His best handling of the Caro-Kann fits this description, as does some of his Gruenfelds. Of course, he basically put aggressive prophylaxis on the map and based an entire style around it. Only when Kasparov was able to "speed up" the action, did Karpov at times (and only rarely) seem out of breath.

I agree <bravado1> with your Smyslov comment. If I could have the ability of one player in the endgame, it would be Smyslov, bar-none.

Jul-23-08  dwavechess: Rybka at 14 plies agrees 80% of the times with kasparov, Karpov less than 50%, but wins, very strange.
Jul-24-08  Everett: It seems that Karpov, at his best, is less understandable to chess computers (and maybe the rest of us), than most others.

The 20% Rybka didn't agree with from Kasparov is what to look at in this case. Kasparov's mistakes may have been graver than Karpov's, and Karpov's may have been only marginally off from the "best" moves.

Jul-24-08
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  tamar: <dwavechess> You might run Rybka on some other games from that match.

The Gruenfeld was borderline even in 1986. Black has a narrow range of options, and if he messes up even a little, White has free game with many choices.

That could be why Rybka agrees more with Kasparov here. He has a bad game after an error, but plays the maximally tough moves after that.

Jul-25-08  tomfoolery: And additionally, computers just don't play the same chess humans do. Unless Rybka disagrees tactically, it's not always right.
Aug-25-08  dwavechess: "It seems that Karpov, at his best, is less understandable to chess computers (and maybe the rest of us), than most others." I think the same, not just for this game, of thousands of games I put rybka to analysis, karpov is perhaps the one that more times could defeat the oponent having far less agreement with rybka. Other players I saw a few times doing this were Kasparov, Tal, Aronian. Perhaps Karpov could be the most rybka-killer player ever.
Sep-09-08  dwavechess: Very interesting! perhaps expected, at
3 minutes per move with Rybka 3 w32 4cpu Karpov agrees 66%, much more.
Sep-11-08  dwavechess: Rybka 3 w32 agrees with Kasparov just 65% at 3 minutes per move, so R3 its a better tool.
Dec-26-08  morin: 14. Bb5 was an innovation on that time. It turns the game around white d pawn.

15. ... Rad8 or 15. ... Bd7 are better.

Mar-16-09  WhiteRook48: and kasparov goes berserk
May-31-09
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  Valiantangel: But whats the idea of 14.Nb5?...i find it hard to understand
May-31-09  WhiteRook48: Kasparov is tied up...
Jun-29-09  Knight13: <Valiantangel: But whats the idea of 14.Nb5?...i find it hard to understand> To control the d6 square. White needs that square for his passed pawn.
Aug-04-09  WhiteRook48: superb chess by Karpov!
Mar-14-10  Everett: From move 19-30, the great players are having a dance over the fate of the pieces on the d-file. Strangely omplex yet isolated play.
Mar-14-10
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  thegoodanarchist: I would love to see the Karpov of 1981 play the Rybka of today! If I had 3 wishes, this would be the third one:)
Mar-15-10  Everett: Three chess wishes:

Lasker vs. Rubinstein in 1913 or 1914

The qualifiers run without the Botvinnik rule, allowing Stein and Bronstein to get in the mix in the 60's. Would have been great, great chess...

Fischer vs. Karpov in '75 (of course)

May-30-10
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  talisman: <Everett> that is one heck of a post...i agree
Mar-05-12
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  zakkzheng: a very crazy game
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