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|Jul-01-09|| ||Knight13: <Karpov received $1.3 million for his effort.> WHAT!?|
|Aug-29-09|| ||guoduke: kasparov offered the draw because he thought the match was already over|
|Sep-17-09|| ||Pacemace: What a game dude, Strong move & position by Kasparov. White should won this without a draw.|
|Sep-17-09|| ||goldenbear: I believed Black to be winning after 23.g4, as White has the stupidest and most awkwardly placed pieces I've seen. But then I looked and looked, and I'm just unable to see anything that doesn't give White the advantage. I concluded that 23.Qd6 (if 23.Qe6, which is what I was thinking, then doesn't Nxc5 work for White?) was the best move and that Black has to draw from a slightly inferior position.|
|Apr-18-10|| ||I play the Fred: A...person named AVRO38 claimed that Karpov missed 23...Nh7 wins in this game and he cited, without specific reference, top computer analysis which said 23...Nh7 was a winning move. Because I know AVRO38 will not give me any specific reference to this computer analysis, can anyone else here point me in that direction?|
If no one can, this confirms what I suspected: AVRO38 was making it all up.
|Apr-18-10|| ||Paraconti: THIS game was never played at the 1990 world championship match! Not unless it was just for fun.|
|Nov-27-10|| ||talisman: ohhhhhhh yea it was. for money not fun.|
|Apr-10-11|| ||williscreek: The players talk about this game and each other in these vids:
|Apr-22-13|| ||Everett: <23..Nh7> is likely better than what was played. As long as Karpov strongpoints e5, a knight on g5, potentially using e6 to eye d4 and f4, would greatly improve the scope of this piece.|
It is not a win afaik, lots can happen, but this rerouting is worthy of consideration. White's position certainly seems awkward.
|Apr-22-13|| ||RookFile: I think Kasparov played a dual plan of making the b7 bishop worthless and also for kingside attack. Karpov did the right thing in taking the draw - he was on course to lose by 13 to 11 rather than 12.5 to 11.5.|
|Apr-22-13|| ||Everett: <RookFile: I think Kasparov played a dual plan of making the b7 bishop worthless and also for kingside attack. Karpov did the right thing in taking the draw - he was on course to lose by 13 to 11 rather than 12.5 to 11.5.>|
Perhaps, but by move 23 Kasparov executed the dual plan of making his own g2 bishop worthless and created targets out of his backward pawns. Karpov's play after that gifted Kasparov a pawn and the game.
|Apr-22-13|| ||RookFile: I'm sure Kasparov was thinking about g5 and Bh3. The Nh7 move would be pertinent to address that possibility but its merits need a lot of analysis.|
|Apr-22-13|| ||Everett: < RookFile: I'm sure Kasparov was thinking about g5 and Bh3. The Nh7 move would be pertinent to address that possibility but its merits need a lot of analysis.>|
Yep, kind of like the merits of g5 and Bh3 would need to be analyzed.
|Mar-25-15|| ||RookFile: Andy Soltis remarked that it is permissible to give yourself a bad bishop if in the meantime you get active play with your rooks.|
|Jun-24-16|| ||Joker2048: This is so bad for me that my opponent offering me draw in a winning position.
|Nov-20-16|| ||Grbasowski: A game for the money.|
|Nov-20-16|| ||Grbasowski: It's
a clear win for Kasparov.
The stalinist (putinist) trash
Karpov had to resign!
|Oct-04-17|| ||dannygjk: Game* 24|
|Oct-05-17|| ||offramp: <Grbasowski: The stalinist (putinist) trash Karpov had to resign!>|
In December 1990 Putin was an advisor on international affairs to the Mayor of St Petersburg, I doubt that Karpov was aware of Putin's existence.
|Oct-05-17|| ||Strelets: <Grbasowski> It was considered customary to accept a draw in a better position in an already-won match. Botvinnik-Bronstein 1951 and the 1974 Karpov-Korchnoi candidates' final are just two examples from off the top of my head.|
|Oct-05-17|| ||Petrosianic: Those are examples of when such a draw was accepted, but they don't prove the existence of a custom or tradition. 1961 and 1995 are examples of when such a draw did NOT happen.|
|Oct-05-17|| ||offramp: I think Euwe was winning Euwe vs Alekhine, 1935 as well, but offered a draw, as it gave him the title.|
|Oct-06-17|| ||Olavi: The last game in 1969 is another example. The story, I believe directly from Spassky via Flohr, goes that Spassky phoned Petrosian directly to offer a draw, and Petrosian wanted to resign, but Boris said that he was first.|
|Oct-06-17|| ||Olavi: And the last game in the Candidates match Short vs Sax, 1988|
And the last game Speelman vs Short, 1988
|Oct-06-17|| ||Howard: Then, there was the 11th/last game of Korchnoi-Petrosian 1977. As Mednis put it in CL&R, Petrosian was "a pawn down in a miserable, lost position" so Korchnoi's (match-clinching) draw offer was "not only sporting, but also practical".|
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