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Garry Kasparov vs Anatoly Karpov
"Garry Garry Quite Contrary" (game of the day Nov-08-2008)
Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990), New York, NY USA, rd 2, Oct-10
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Flohr System (C92)  ·  1-0

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Nov-08-08  Chessmensch: <Autoreparaturwerkbau> The pun is a take on the nursery rhyme, Mary, Mary quite contrary, how does your garden grow? That's just the opening of it.
Nov-08-08  SuperPatzer77: Hey, Chessmensch! Penn State lost to Iowa by the score of 24-23 but it won't hurt BCS for Penn State. Don't feel dejected, OK, Chessmensch? Penn State will have two more games (Indiana and Michigan State). I bet my boots PSU will be selected for the major bowl.

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Nov-09-08  arnaud1959: <Andrijadj:> I'm sure that you were kidding but some people had posted the same comment and they were serious. My point is that cg tries (I think) to choose a "game of the day" according to what people want to see in general. In that perspective we might see many brilliant Karpov wins but more of Kasparov wins.

Sometimes I find myself some great, instructive games that nobody has commented. A recent exemple:M Vachier Lagrave vs Vaisser, 2008

Nov-09-08  Granny O Doul: Larry C in the press room immediately gave 25.Bh6 as nearly winning for White, while Yasser thought it a blunder. Larry in general was very good at predicting Kasparov's moves, even when they turned out to be not the best, and Yasser, among the GM's commenting, was the most likely to prefer Karpov's position at a given point.
Jan-05-09  Andrijadj: No no,it is from english nursery rhyme,Mery Mery quite contrary...
Jan-05-09
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  tamar: Tolya, Tolya Can't Console Ya
Apr-17-09  WhiteRook48: Kasparov is Bloody Mary!!
Jun-30-09  Knight13: <spirit: how does 42.Bxg6 continue?> 42...Kh8 43. Rxh6 and Black's king is safer. It's just not the best continuation. The bishop is doing a good job on b1 already. Why not let it stay there and use it for maximum effect?
Sep-05-09  ToTheDeath: Kasparov was great at positions calling for a sacrifice of two pieces for rook and pawn(s).

Usually these situations favor the side with the pieces but if the pawns taken away expose the enemy king and the rooks can get active it is a dynamic imbalance favoring the side with the rooks. It was Tal who made this idea a formidable weapon at the top level- see Tal vs S Johannessen, 1959

Sep-05-09  taliakarpovia: Ý am a huge talfan and a karpov fan..Ý must admit after karpovs victories...Kasparov got away his mind pressure and in 1990 's..he played masterpiece games..but In fact before 1993 kasparov was not big as karpov as..I think if karpov had won that 84 match..Ý wish if it had happened..but we lost!!!..1984 match must have not broken..:(((..as naruto language..Kaspy s kyuubi sealed in that match..even fi you have sharingan..
Sep-05-09  taliakarpovia: Karpov and petrosian are the biggest in exact positional game..as tal,svidler, in dynamic and art:)..as kasparov in positional dynamic..as fisher and botvinnik in pawn structure and eliminating material..:))...and of course smyslov in endgame...But Alekhine is the only one who died as champion..This mieans a lot to me..Also Alekhine could crash Capa in rematch..(Ýf it played))
Apr-03-10  Kinghunt: Very interesting, Kasparov and Karpov debated this line in 4 separate games in their 1990 match, playing all the same moves up through move 15 in all four games. The result: Kasparov scored +2 =2 -0, for a total score of 75% with this opening.

Below are the other three 1990 games involving this opening: Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990
Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990
Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990

Apr-17-11  talisman: <taliakarpovia> <Alekhine could crash Capa in rematch>...i disagree. remember Alekhine rhymes with?........CHICKEN!
Jun-25-13  Kinghunt: Engines have come a long way in the last few years. As I noted at Topalov vs Shirov, 1998 in 2010, engines approved of Kasparov's Bxh6, but wouldn't find it themselves. Three years later, Stockfish 3 finds the move instantly.
Dec-06-16
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Granny O Doul,

"Larry C in the press room immediately gave 25.Bh6 as nearly winning for White, while Yasser thought it a blunder.

Larry in general was very good at predicting Kasparov's moves, even when they turned out to be not the best, and Yasser, among the GM's commenting, was the most likely to prefer Karpov's position at a given point."

Sounds like you were there, if not then a very good post and observation.

After 25.Bxh6


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Yasser Seirawan was accepting bets of $80 saying Karpov would win. Patrick Wolff and Nick de Firmian took him up on the offer.

Source, 'Clash of the Titans' by Ray Keene. Another of RDK's World Championship book that is very entertaining.

"If the Battle of Waterloo was won the playing fields of Eton then Karpov vs Kasparov, 1990 was lost in the coffee houses of Vienna."

Ray could hardly fail as the games really are a feast of what's good in chess. All the 1990's W.C. matches were, Kasparov -v- Karpov, Short and Anand. Some great games. Sadly it was the swan song of chess.

Along came Kramnik and the rise of the personal computer. Kapsarov quit a few a years later and the game has not been the same since.

(sorry it took me 8 years to reply...been busy.)

Feb-25-17  Joker2048: Kasparov crushed karpov here...
Perfect play by Garry
Aug-11-18  Caissa04: 28 years later and this game is still dynamite.
Nov-06-18  Caleb554: Kasparov's wins are quite impressive. But the fact remains Garry leads Anotoly by only 2 points in their head-to-head classical matches. Kasparov is better than Karpov by only a small margin.With little bit more luck and mental focus, Karpov could have won one more world championship match defeating Kasparov. Especially during 1987 match where needed only a draw in the final game to win the match.
Nov-12-21  duchampion: Great!! nice Fork
Jun-22-24
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  saffuna: My copy of "Garry Kasparov's Fighting Chess" has black's 22nd and 23rd reversed.
Jun-23-24
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  MarcusBierce: <ToTheDeath: Kasparov was great at positions calling for a sacrifice of two pieces for rook and pawn(s). Usually these situations favor the side with the pieces but if the pawns taken away expose the enemy king and the rooks can get active it is a dynamic imbalance favoring the side with the rooks. It was Tal who made this idea a formidable weapon at the top level- see Tal vs S Johannessen, 1959>

Seeing how this kind of sacrifice and resultant dynamics is new to me. Thank you for sharing this insight!

Jun-23-24
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  Fusilli: <MarcusBierce> True! And then there is the unhelpful location of the defending side's minor pieces (the knight on h6 and the LSB are helpless spectators, really).
Jun-25-24
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  MarcusBierce: <Fusilli> another good point re: relative activity of <what’s left on the board <not what is sacrificed>>. Thank you! Though I never looked at but a few games from Valeri Beim’s books on Kasparov’s games, his analysis in this regard shows it time and again.
Jul-28-24  Granny O Doul: <Sounds like you were there, if not then a very good post and observation.>

I was at all the games on West 44th Street. Lyons alas was/is beyond the subway's reach. During one of the New York games (I forget which), the Djin asked Yasser what he thought. Yasser said "I like Karpov." Roman replied "I know you do, but what do you think of the position?"

<(sorry it took me 8 years to reply...been busy.)>

Not to worry, I know life can get that way.

Jul-28-24
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  perfidious: <Granny....Lyons alas was/is beyond the subway's reach....>

Speaking from experience, that is not at all surprising somehow; I had been in that area thirteen years before this game was played and the modern highway which connects Lyons and Geneva did not exist.

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