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Anatoly Karpov vs Werner Hug
Wch U20 prel-B (1969), Stockholm SWE, rd 2, Aug-11
Sicilian Defense: Nimzowitsch. Advance Variation (B29)  ·  1/2-1/2


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  offramp: Hug must be kicking himself to this day! The totally straightforward 29...♕f3 wins on the spot. Karpov has only one move to stop the mate, but it loses queen for rook: 30.♕e1 ♖d1.
Aug-18-05  mcgee: I seem to recall that had Karpov lost this he would not have qualified for the final stage of the World Junior Championship. History might just have been different...
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  whiteshark: Hug said in 1979:

"Wenn ich damals den richtigen Zug gemacht hätte, wäre Karpov heute vielleicht nicht einmal Weltmeister."

translated: <If I had found the right move back then Karpov possibly wouldn't be todays world champion.>

Feb-25-13  thomastonk: The English Wikipedia writes in its article on Hug: "Had Karpov lost this game he would not have qualified for the final A section."

This seems to be completely wrong. The game has been played in the second round of the prelimary group B, and if Karpov had lost it, it would have still be possible to qualify for the final, of course. But even if it would have been played in the final round, Karpov would have been qualified as we can see from the final standings of this group:

Karpov 4.5 (qualified)
McKay 4 (qualified)
Payrhuber 3.5
Torre 3.5
Hug 3
Snapzik 2
Fridjonsson 0.5
So, if Hug would have won, the same players would have qualified!

Moreover, Hug's quote cited by <whiteshark> seems pretty ridiculous.

Feb-25-13  IndigoViolet: <The English Wikipedia writes in its article on Hug: "Had Karpov lost this game he would not have qualified for the final A section.">

Oh, hug it up. You are permitted to change things, if you please.

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  perfidious: <thomastonk> If you have a go at that article, perhaps it will be more to your liking now, though work remains to be done.
Feb-25-13  thomastonk: <perfidious> Okay, I have seen that there is a change.

But I think the whole stuff about this game makes no sense in that article. It has neither been of some importance to Hug nor to Karpov. So, why should a missed opportunity be mentioned at all?! In the current version, there is three times more content about this game than on Hug winning the World Junior Championship 1971 himself, which is a tremendous success!

Only if Hug would still constantly claim that this game could have changed chess history, it should be mentioned that he is wrong in this respect. But I have no indication thereof.

Feb-25-13  voyager39: Fact remains that Hug didn't find the move and Karpov went on to become a legend.

And I seriously doubt that one loss can make such a big difference to the great Karpov.

Feb-25-13  solskytz: <Offramp> Took me nine years to see this comment - but this is just wrong: 30. Qd6 would stop the mate just as well (although it would cost a pawn more than your own suggestion)
Feb-26-13  thomastonk: <voyager39> Completely agrred!

That's from Werner Hug's Wikipedia article: "In a game in a preliminary section of the 1969 World Junior Championship, he overlooked a mate threat against Anatoly Karpov, which would have forced Karpov to lose a decisive amount of material in order to parry it; instead, the game eventually ended in a draw. Karpov went on to win the Junior championship, and would become the World Champion in 1975.

He was awarded the title of International Master (IM) in 1971, when he became World Junior Champion in Athens. He won the Swiss Championship in 1975."

My suggestion is to remove the first paragraph. That's all.

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  perfidious: <thomastonk> Most probably I should have removed the entire paragraph, rather than excising the one sentence. There's a not a lot of point to it, really.
Feb-26-13  thomastonk: <perfidious> Who is going to stop you?! ;-)
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  perfidious: <thomastonk> Heh, heh, heh.......
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