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|Aug-30-10|| ||Sastre: Black is winning after <49...Ng5 50.Nh5 Qe4 51.Rd3 Qe1+ 52.Kh2 Qh4+ 53.Kxg2 Qxh5>.|
|Aug-30-10|| ||sevenseaman: Thats right, thanks <sastre>.|
|Apr-23-11|| ||Phony Benoni: Well, that's really Csomthing.
I have mentioned before that I don't understand how the Hedgehog works, and apparently Karpov was baffled in this game as well. The prior kibitzing shows that he was losing up to the very last moment, when instead of 50...Ng5 Black blundered with 50...Nf8 and Karpov unleashed a cheapo worthy of Frank J. Marshall.
The pun refers to a video/cartoon character named "Cosmic the Hedgehog", from a later generation than mine. The only thing I know that he moved quickly, which doesn't really describe what Csom did in this game. After the game might have been a different story.
|Apr-23-11|| ||AuN1: actually, he's "sonic" the hedgehog.|
|Apr-23-11|| ||Phony Benoni: Well, I told you it was after my time. But that probably makes the pun a bit better.|
|Apr-23-11|| ||HeMateMe: Wow! Karpov wasn't really known for this playing style, was he? At least, thats the general feeling. This looked a lot more like Kasparov, just keep pushing till the defender collapses.|
The geometry is very nice, How Karpov uses the empty 7th rank and open h file to force the win.
|Apr-23-11|| ||Garech: Incredible game from Karpov - loved it!
|Apr-23-11|| ||atakantmac: @garech
its not a good game from karpov.if black didn't do 49.Nf8 black would win.because karpov was losing and there would be no mate attack
|Apr-23-11|| ||fokers13: don't feed the freaking trolls:)|
|Apr-23-11|| ||sevenseaman: < atakantmac: @garech
its not a good game from karpov.if black didn't do 49.Nf8 black would win.because karpov was losing and there would be no mate attack>
Thats right. But for Black's 49...Nf8 mistake he wins the game. He should have played Ng5 instead.
|Apr-23-11|| ||psmith: <fokers13> Someone who posts a mistaken kibitz is not a troll. It is reasonable to correct them. A troll is someone who won't accept reasonable correction.|
|Apr-23-11|| ||Gilmoy: Except that "Csom" is pronounced "chom": http://www.chess-poster.com/english...|
This category of pun irritates me, because I do put in the homework to look up pronunciations, and I've already rejected some of my own puns on that basis. (My silly idea from a while ago was "Ahn Csom Bic", an ode to a little-known GM of Vietnamese-Hungarian-Slavic descent who opens 1.f4 and yells at you. But it made the the same error in pronunciation, so I shelved it.) To see that at least two other persons haven't bothered strikes me as just plain lazy.
So of course I pronounce it the right way at first glance, "chomic the hedgehog", which isn't remotely funny. That's sloppy work, about as clever as using Vasja Pirc's name ("peerts") for a pun based on "perky".
|Apr-23-11|| ||kevin86: Boy! That attack came fast. Shows how big it is to control the seventh...|
|Apr-23-11|| ||FSR: Poor Csom. A fine swindle by Karpov. http://bit.ly/OTMGC 49...Ng5! would have won.|
|Apr-23-11|| ||hstevens129: Continuations after 50.Nf5!
50...exf5 51.Qh2+ Kg8 52.Qg3+ Kh8 53.Qg7#
50...Nf4 51.Rh7+ Nxh7 52.Qg7#
There are other variations but this is the basic idea of the fatal dual attack created by 50.Nf5!
|Apr-23-11|| ||drnooo: Karpov in his prime, no less, getting pushed around....till the blunder|
|Apr-23-11|| ||SirChrislov: Vintage Karpov.
I know the Garry games are remembered most but it's good to see a Karpov game now and then. black was a 2535 GM 2x champ of Hungary at the time.
|Apr-23-11|| ||James Bowman: Wow I didn't understand the resignation by black for some time, it was like a friday puzzle to my blind eyes until I finally understood the devestating threat of ...49Nf8. |
Not only as a potential participant in a 7th rank mating net, but of even greater significance to open the c7-h2 diagonal for the royal wench to inflict the mortal blow by yet another means.
Karpov yet again demonstrating why he was a worthy champion.
|Apr-23-11|| ||chrisowen: Bartending Moment Of Ephinany curly ba3 expect nc5 la ring bold. |
Wash coast dig in c4 house time kingside expand h4.
It is instigating MS now nf8 food for thought farago che sera sera...
|Apr-23-11|| ||thegoodanarchist: The position after move 49 is one of the combination puzzles in The Encyclopedia of Chess Middlegames (black book)|
|Apr-23-11|| ||keypusher: When I click on the link I am brought to Aronian-Smeets from Tata Steel earlier this year. Chessgames is gaslighting me!|
|Apr-23-11|| ||keypusher: Working now.|
|Apr-23-11|| ||WhiteRook48: why didn't white play 46 Qd7? has anyone analyzed that?|
|Apr-23-11|| ||Everett: <PhonyBenoni> if you wish to get a better grasp of the hedgehog, check out Suba's Dynamic Chess Strategies, a book that takes pains (successfully) to explain the potential in black's set-up.|
|May-06-13|| ||soberknight: and Hemsky's loose! Hemsky! He scores!|
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