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Viktor Korchnoi vs Anatoly Karpov
"Korchnoi's Complaint" (game of the day Aug-12-2010)
Karpov - Korchnoi World Championship Match (1978), City of Baguio PHI, rd 31, Oct-12
Queen's Gambit Declined: Exchange. Positional Variation (D35)  ·  1-0
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Dec-05-14  kia0708: Entertaining game !
First I thought White is attacking on the King side. Then, on the Queen side. Then again on the King side.
Dec-05-14  m.okun: Korchnoi began to be called "the world champion in game without Queens".
Apr-19-16  Howard: This just in ! According to the new book Understanding Rook Endgames, 58...Rd4!! draws.

Kasparov claims in MGP IV that the draw was already gone by this point, but URE states otherwise.

I don't know what Korchnoi: Move by Move states, though. Anyone know ?

May-17-16
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  dernier loup de T: I'm just a patzer, but I read the analyses in magazines about this game and checked it with the help of computer: after 54..Rd4 it was draw, point. But, tired or nervous, Karpov set the miserable trap 58...b3; maybe a zeitnot of Kortchnoy let him hope as answer a blunder like in the seventeenth game, which Kortchnoy was not ashamed to call "typical of Karpov's way of playing; here, 59.Rxb3?? Rb4+ and White was lost; globally the quality of the 1978 WCC was very low because of extra chess problems; and honestly, can we hesitate for answering to the question: WHO was the principal responsable: Kortchnoy or Karpov? That's why, sorry but I could not consider these comments of the Karpov's technical level in endgames as very serious. They do not even look like a funny joke... Just nonsense without even a shadow of objectivity.
Jun-10-16  Howard: Watch out for that typo---the preceding comment meant 58...Rd4, not "54...Rd4".
Aug-10-16
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  dernier loup de T: Sorry, Howard; and thank you for the correction..
Aug-10-16  cunctatorg: "... maybe a zeitnot of Korchnoi let him hope as answer a blunder like in the seventeenth game, which Korchnoi was not ashamed to call "typical of Karpov's way of playing";..." Question: when Korchnoi had made this statement, at 1993 etc. or during the tense and the hardest competition of the Baguio match?!?

"... globally the quality of the 1978 WCC was very low because of extra chess problems; and honestly, can we hesitate for answering to the question: WHO was the principal responsible: Korchnoi or Karpov?" The statement, made also by CG or so, that the quality of the 1978 WCC match was low (or even "very low") is just way superficial and way arrogant...; it's just a proof that the "judge" doesn't understand the subtle difference between chess (which is essentially a fight) and mathematics, between real games and analyses, between real players and mere analysts or nowadays computers... You can find critical mistakes or decisive errors in games of every WCC match, including the Reykjavik match (read Kasparov's analysis of some Fischer's gems at OMGP or even his "The test of time") or the (greatest) Karpov-Kasparov matches...

Aug-10-16
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  diagonal: <cunctatorg> good point: <the subtle difference between chess (which is essentially a fight) and mathematics, between real games and analyses, between real players and mere analysts or nowadays computers... You can find critical mistakes or decisive errors in games of every WCC match>,

Of course, the 1978 Marathon match faced more "mistakes" than a pure theoretical approach of some players today (no names) sifting through gigantic databases preparing twenty or thirty moves with the computer, just to find some forced drawing lines...

<There is no exquisite beauty... without some strangeness in the proportion>, goes an old saying from Edgar Allan Poe, and base of further similar quotes later.

And yes, Korchnoi always was a player who did not 'trust' the moves of his opponent (Speelman pointed out that again recently), in 1978 sometimes both players did not even trust their own moves..., 32 games in full three months, many of them adjourned in complicated, double-edge positions, enormous emotional tension...

Just after the WCC match finished, Korchnoi went on to the Chess Olympiad at Buenos Aires, missing the first three rounds, then playing all the rounds 4 to 14, unbeaten and achieving at 81,8% the Gold medal on board one for Switzerland (7th-11th, Hungary won); he clearly was superior to the others, watch out for instance his last round game vs. Kavalek, USA: Korchnoi vs Kavalek, 1978, no energy drain, a typical Korchnoi game

Aug-10-16  Howard: Regarding the Korchnoi-Kavalek game, there was some irony involved in that game.

By beating Kavalek, Korchnoi helped the Soviets to finish in second place, rather than third.

Aug-10-16  cunctatorg: Victor Korchnoi was a toughest fighter, sometimes even an obsessed rival but never a petty one, at least regarding important issues ... and this is the reason that the Hungarians could state: "... we trusted Korchnoi..." which is THE GREAT PRAISE.
Jan-22-17  Albion 1959: Superb and instructive endgame technique from Korchnoi ! Reminiscent of Capablanca v Tartakover 1924, with pawn sacrifices to permit infiltration with the king.
Jul-30-17
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  patzer2: I too was curious about playing 49...Rg3+ to win a pawn. So I plugged it into Stockfish 8 and confirmed the comment of <Albanius> that winning a pawn with 49...Rg3+? 50. Kb4 Rxh3?? is a bad idea:

49...Rg3+? 50.Kb4 Rxh3?? 51.a6 bxa6 52.d5 cxd5 53.c6 Rh4+ 54.Kc5 Rc4+ 55.Kd6 (+6.34 @ 31 depth, Stockfish 8)


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55...h5 56.c7 a5 57.Re7+ Kf8 58.Rd7 a4 59.Rd8+ Kg7 60.c8=Q Rxc8 61.Rxc8 b4


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62.Ra8 (mate-in-30, Stockfish 8 @ 42 depth) 62...a3 63.Kxd5 h4 64.Ra4 h3 65.Rxb4 a2 66.Rg4+! Kf7 67.Rg1 h2 68.Re1 Kg7 69.Kd6 Kf7 70.Kd7 Kg7 71.Ke7 Kh6 72.Kxf6 (Mate-in-11 Stockfish 8 @ 59 depth)


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Jul-30-17
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  patzer2: Stockfish 8 analysis appears to confirm comment by <Howard> above that 58...Rd4! holds the draw:

[Stockfish 8 64] +0.25 @ 35 depth]

58...Rd4 (diagram below)


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59.Kxa5 Kc7 60.Kb5 Rd7 61.Rb3 Rd5 62.Rxb4 Rxf5 63.Ra4 Rf3 64.h4 Rb3+ 65.Kc4 Rf3 66.Kd5 Rf5+ 67.Ke6 Rxc5 68.Kxf6 Kd6 69.Re4 h5 70.Kg6 Rd5 71.Re3 Kd7 72.Ra3 Ke7 73.Rf3 Ke6 74.Rf6+ Ke7 75.Rf1 Kd6 76.Rf8 Ke7 77.Rf4 Kd7 78.Ra4 Kd6 79.Kf6 Kc6 80.Rc4+ Kd6 = (diagram below)


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Tablebase Draw

Sep-10-17  andrea volponi: 49 Re6 (!kasparov +-)Rg3+ -Ke4 Ra3! -d5 Ra4+ -Kd3 Rxa5 -d6 Ra3+ -Kd2 b4 -Re7+ Kf8 -Rxb7 Ke8 -Rxb4 Ra5 -Rc4 Kd7 -Kd3 h5 -h4 ⩲
Sep-10-17  Granny O Doul: <diagonal> That "no excellent beauty" quote comes from Francis Bacon, when Poe was not yet even a dream within a dream.
Sep-10-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <Granny O Doul: <diagonal> That "no excellent beauty" quote comes from Francis Bacon, when Poe was not yet even a dream within a dream.>

But already three-fourths of a poet.

<andrea volponi: 49 Re6 (!kasparov +-)Rg3+ -Ke4 Ra3! -d5 Ra4+ -Kd3 Rxa5 -d6 Ra3+ -Kd2 b4 -Re7+ Kf8 -Rxb7 Ke8 -Rxb4 Ra5 -Rc4 Kd7 -Kd3 h5 -h4 ⩲>

Thanks. This line wins for white, right?:

49. Kc3 Rg3+ 50. Kb4 Rxh3 51. a6 bxa6 52. Ka5 Ra3+ 53. Kb6 a5 54. Kxc6 Rd3 55. d5 b4 56. d6 b3 57. Re7+ Kf8 58. Rb7 a4 59. Rb4

Sep-10-17
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  offramp: Francis Bacon also said: "<Age appears to be best in four things; old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read.>"
Sep-12-17  andrea volponi: chesshighercat:this line wins for white?,no 49 Re6 it is a draw.
May-12-18
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  morfishine: Wooo Doggy, Karpov's pawns sure disappeared quick...real quick
May-23-18  belgradegambit: Bumped in honor of Philip Roth who passed away yesterday.
Jun-18-18
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  Omnipotent00001: 68. Re3 mates in 28.
Oct-17-18  DrGridlock: Nice video lecture on this game by Akobian (beginner/intermediate class at St Louis Chess Club) here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZg...

Oct-18-18
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  harrylime: Maybe we can say History has been kind to Karpov....

Fischer would have destroyed him in 1975.

Oct-18-18
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  Count Wedgemore: <harrylime: Fischer would have destroyed him in 1975.>

Destroyed him like a Taimsnov or Larsen? No way, <harry>. He did by no means destroy Spassky in '72 (the final score was 12 - 8 in Fischer's favour). It is hard to believe that Karpov would have fared significantly worse than Spassky. My guess is that Fischer would have won, but not by that much, I think. And he would most certainly not have obliterated him. That is highly unlikely.

But we will never know..

Oct-18-18
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  harrylime: <The Count>

A motivated Fischer would have been too hot for Karpov in 75 ... and it wasn't just Karpov, it was the entire Soviet establishment Bobby would have been , and actually already was, facing ... .. Those days were surreal and hard to relate to now!

I love Karpov and respect him immensely . But Fischer was a different animal.

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