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Jan Timman vs Anatoli Karpov
11, Montreal ;MCL 02 1979  ·  English Opening: King's English. Four Knights Variation Quiet Line (A28)  ·  0-1


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Mar-17-06
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  notyetagm: <csmath: By the way it is really very sad that Karpov lost his interest in competetive chess. Whenever I analize his games I come to an impression that he plays nearly perfect solid positional style, quite rare these days at this level. One of the greatest.>

Karpov seems to have an understanding of chess that is so deep that it is unbelievable.

Mar-17-06
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  notyetagm: White castles kingside but his king ends up on a3. Wow.
Jun-12-06
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  KingG: Fantastic game.
Jun-12-06   SniperOnG7: <csmath: By the way it is really very sad that Karpov lost his interest in competetive chess. Whenever I analize his games I come to an impression that he plays nearly perfect solid positional style, quite rare these days at this level. One of the greatest.> Maybe his solid positional style is so perfect that he has even bored himself with it :P (jk btw)
Jun-12-06
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  ianD: Karpov the Tactician!?!??
Jun-19-06   crptone: what a surprising game! its very unlike karpov to accept the pawn weaknesses for the sake of better piece play!
Jun-19-06   RookFile: <ianD: Karpov the Tactician!?!??>

Absolutely. Listen - we make oversimplifications about people's styles. We decided that Smyslov is an endgame virtuoso, Alekhine is tactical, and that Karpov aims for boring endgame advantages.

You do NOT get to get world champion unless you are an OUTSTANDING tactician, and Karpov was clearly that.

Jun-26-06   Poisonpawns: Karpov hunts he KING!
Jul-17-06
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  whatthefat: This is perhaps Karpov's best game from the 1979 Montreal "Tournament of Stars". I recently bought the tournament book, which was largely written by Tal, although it also includes detailed analysis by many of the competitors, including Karpov.

It was a fascinating tournament, coming in the lead-up to the world championship cycle, with Korchnoi and Polugaesky the only notable absentees. According to chessmetrics, the world rankings of the competitors at the time of the event were:

#1 Karpov
#4 Tal
#5 Portisch
#6 Spassky
#8 Larsen
#9 Timman
#12 Hort
#17 Hubner
#21 Ljubojevic
#31 Kavalek

making it a Class 13 tournament by the chessmetrics definition; this being =2nd for the 1970s, behind only the Class 15 1973 Russian Championship.

In the end, a white-hot Karpov duked it out with a rejuvenated Tal, as the others fell by the wayside. Fittingly, they finished the tournament tied for first at +6, after some stellar performances, including:

Tal vs Larsen, 1979
Spassky vs Tal, 1979
Tal vs Huebner, 1979
Spassky vs Karpov, 1979

Jan-06-07   mcgee: Good combo by Karpov but an over-rated game I think - White is half-asleep from the kick-off. Offhand, Karpov's win as Black in a Scotch Game against Ljubojevic in this tournament looks far more interesting
Jan-06-07
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  euripides: <what the fat> interesting list; 7 of the top 10 were in their forties. There's hope yet. http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Sing...
May-23-07
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  Richard Taylor: This is a great game by Karpov. There is no way a player can simply be a "tactician" etc Smyslov played some of the most wonderfully complex attacks and combinative games - all these players who do so (including Tal) have positional justificians for their attacks or their sacrifice for initiative for complexity and initiative (Karpov's style was less "risk" taking but he didn't (doesn't) lack courage OTB - it is only a matter of style. Kasparov learnt from Karpov: his deep methods of deeper positional chess by playing him over about 2 decades.

Karpov in his prime was one of the greatest (World Champion) players ever - not from this game only of course (this is probably not his best "tactical" game and isn't his best game (it is certainly wonderful however) but from his style and results and the subtlety of his many games and their insights.

This doesn't mean here were many others very close or possibly better who were notworld champions such as Korchnoi and Bronstein. But in 1972 to the 1980s or so, I think he was the was the World's strongest player including Fischer.

May-23-07   M.D. Wilson: Karpov is one of the three strongest players of all time. In terms of achievements, he absolutely surpasses his predecessors. It's my view that if Fischer had stayed in the loop during the 70s, he would have still been the player to beat until about 1974-76. The mid to late 70s would have been Karpov’s era, although Fischer would have kept Karpov on his toes. Karpov would have still become champion at around this time (around 1975 to 1978) anyway, no matter the circumstances; it’s just the evolution of the game. In the chess world, natural selection is as ruthless as hell!
May-23-07   MJW 72: Karpov was a very strong player. But this game is does not show it. After going over the novelty with zaitsev any strong GM could have finshed off Jan Timman.
May-23-07   MJW 72: Oh, it's 11...PxP!
Sep-11-07   duplex: Fischer would have beaten Karpov in 1975(Karpov himself said so) and maybe in 1978 as well but never in 1980 ,the time Karpov reached his peak ..
Nov-25-07   goldenbear: Since no one has said so, I'll say it: 11.dxc4! was another one of those Baguio preparations by Igor Zaitsev, so not an over-the-board find. Also, 14.Bxg4 Bxg4 15.h3 holds, although not without difficulty.
Dec-01-07   M.D. Wilson: I've always liked this game. Karpov won this event (Montreal Tournament of Stars) with an energised Tal. This game illustrates Karpov's tactical ability, although Timman's play was not brilliant.
Jun-05-08   Poisonpawns: Kasparov learned alot from the matches with karpov.Imagine how much Karpov would have learned if he had the chance to engage Fischer in the 70`s.I feel Karpov was cheated by caissa.
Jun-09-08
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  Cinco: <goldenbear: Since no one has said so, I'll say it: 11.dxc4! was another one of those Baguio preparations by Igor Zaitsev, so not an over-the-board find. Also, 14.Bxg4 Bxg4 15.h3 holds, although not without difficulty.>

I think 14. g3 was the correct play by Timman. 14. Bxg4 Bxg4 15. h3 just allows 14...Be6 then 15...Rb4 exploiting white's c-pawn. Karpov said this variation gives black a decisive initiative.

Aug-15-08   Cactus: This game won the <Chess Informator> compitition for both the best novelty - and the best game!
Aug-15-08   littlefermat: Apparently the novelty (11..PxP) was part of home prep that wasn't used in the Korchnoi match.
Aug-25-08   Woody Wood Pusher: If 16. Kxh2, Qh4+ 17. Kg2, Qh3+ 18.Kg1, Bxg3 19.fxg3,Qxg3+ 20. Kh1,Re4 21.Rf4,Bh3 22. Bf1, Bxf1 23. Qd2, Re6 24.Bf6, Rxf6 25. Rxf6,Qxh4+ 26.Qh2, Qxf6 (-5.4)
Dec-18-08   M.D. Wilson: <Kasparov learned alot from the matches with karpov.Imagine how much Karpov would have learned if he had the chance to engage Fischer in the 70`s.I feel Karpov was cheated by caissa.> Karpov himself said that. He said he felt like a child trying to grasp a toy, when, at the last minute, the toy is taken away. It would have been a great opportunity for Karpov to test himself and overcome Fischer in due time. Iron sharpens iron.
Jul-01-09   mannetje: Karpov: <<"In this game probably the most important novelty of the tournament occurred. It had been prepared for Korchnoi, but somehow he deftly avoided this preparation. And then completely unexpectedly the variation 'fired' at Timman.">>

Here is a smal part of the analyses provided by Garry Kasparov, from My Great Predecessors.

<1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e5 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.e3> 4.g3 Bb4 was intensively tested in Baguio, and therefore, not wishing to check the qaulity of the analytical work of Karpov's brigade, Timman is the first to deviate, hoping that hiet opponent's knowledge will be less detailed in other variations. <4...Be7> Meeting a surprise with a surprise! Karpov also turns along a rarely-used path, avoiding the main variation 4...Bb4 5.Qc2. Now black has no problems after 5...0-0 6.d3 (Ehlvest-Kasparov, Reykjavik 1988), but 6.Nd5! Re8 7.Qf5!? is more unpleasent for him - this original thrust was introduced by Keene back in 1977. Therefore instead of 5...0-0 black often parts with his bishop immediately: 5...Bxc3 6.Qxc3 Qe7 7.a3 a5 with equality (H.Olafsson-Karpov, Malta Olympiad, 1980). <5.d4 exd4 6.Nxd4 0-0 7.Nxc6> After 7.Be2 black can all the same play 7...d5!?. Another promising reaction is 7...Bb4!? 8.0-0 Bxc3 (Azmaiparashvili-Anand, Dubai Rapidplay 2002). <7...bxc6 8.Be2 d5 9.0-0 Bd6 10.b3> The preparatory exchange 10.cxd5 cxd5 makes the defects in Black's pawn structure less noticeable, and White no longer has any hopes for an opening advantage. <10...Qe7!> Karpov writes that 'all indications are that Black is well placed both in the centre and on both of the flanks', but what should especially alarm White is the absence of an impotant defender of the king - the knight at f3. Because of this he is soon forced to advance one of his pawns and weaken his king's defences. <11.Bb2> 11.cxd5? loses the knight after 11...Qe5!, while if 11.Qc2 then 11...Qe5 12.f4 Qe7 looks good. Tal: "Opening books of recent years have unanimously evaluated the position after 11.Bb2 in favour of White. Karpov's simple but paradoxial reply forces this evaluation to be radically changed. Right to the end of the tournament the grandmasters analysed the continuation, seeking equality for white."

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