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|Jul-25-15|| ||morfishine: Great finish by Karpov. I was thinking this was that great game vs Topalov Karpov vs Topalov, 1994 But then realized this was a different game|
Here, I had <27.Rxe6> followed by 27...Qxa6 and now <28.Rxf7> which is pretty much the highlight of the combination; continuing 28...Kxf7
But now I played 29.g6+ Ke8 30.Qf3
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Which felt strong since 31.Qf7+ seems hard to meet
|Jul-25-15|| ||wooden nickel: This is a match between two great players. There are many moves to try today all over the board.
<al wazir: My idea (for what it's worth) was 27. Qa7 ...>
Well, that was sure worth a try.
Also 27.Qf2 (or Qf3?!) seems to be a strong move!
If 27... Qxa6 28.Rxe6 Qxf1+ 29.Qxf1 fxe6
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Of course the played 27.Rxe6! is the real winner, but only if one spots the following 30.g6+!
That little bastard (pardon my Bavarian!) ruins Black.
|Jul-25-15|| ||alshatranji: What about 28.Qf3? White threatens Qxf7#, and there doesn't seem to be a good defense.|
|Jul-25-15|| ||alshatranji: Wooden nickel had a similar idea, but I think the queen move is stronger after Rxf6.|
|Jul-25-15|| ||patzer2: <alshatranji: What about 28.Qf3?> White wins, though it's not as strong as the game continuation. |
White wins after 28. Qf3 Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6 30. Qa6 Kf7 31. Qxd6 Rhe8 32. Nd2 Rb7 33. g6+ Kg8 34. Ne4 Rbxe7 35. Qxb4 (+5.07 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 14).
|Jul-25-15|| ||kevin86: The sacrifice partie turns into a brutal finish.The king's poor defender are pinned and cornered.|
|Jul-25-15|| ||patzer2: If 29...Rhxe8 (diagram below),
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it's mate-in-six with 30. g6+! Kf8 31. Qf2+ Kg8 32. Rxe8+ (or 32. Qf7+ Kh8 33. Rxe8+ Rxe8 34. Qxe8+ Bf8 35. Qxf8#) 32... Rxe8 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. Qxe8+ Bf8 35. Qxf8#.
|Jul-25-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: van der Wiel lost because he chose too many of the same moves I would have chosen.|
|Jul-25-15|| ||Jimfromprovidence: 27...Bxb2+, assuming 28 Kxb2 fxe6, throws the puzzle into a nice alternative ending, for those interested.|
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White to play and win.
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|Jul-25-15|| ||agb2002: White has a bishop, a knight and two pawns for the bishop pair.|
Black threatens Qxa6 and Kxe7.
The bishop on e6 protects f7. This invites to play 27.Rxe6:
A) 27... fxe6 28.Qxe6 (28.Qf3 Kd7 29.Qf7 Rbe8, unclear) 28... Qxa6 29.Qf7+ Kd7 30.e8=Q#.
B) 27... Qxa6 28.Rxf7
B.1) 28... Kxf7 29.e8=Q+ (29.g6+ Ke8, unclear)
B.1.a) 29... Rbxe8 30.g6+ Kg8 (30... Kf8 31.Rxe8#) 31.Rxe8+ Bf8 32.Qe6+ Kg7 33.Qf7+ Kh6 34.Rxf8 wins.
B.1.b) 29... Rhxe8 30.g6+ Kf8 (30... Kg8 31.Rxe8+ and mate soon) 31.Qf4+ Kg8 32.Qf7+ Kh8 33.Rxe8+ Rxe8 34.Qxe8 Bf8 35.Qxf8#.
B.2) 28... Rg8 29.Qf4 with the threat 30.Rf8+ Kd7 31.e8=Q+ Rxe8 32.Qf7+ looks winning.
|Jul-25-15|| ||agb2002: <Jimfromprovidence: 27...Bxb2+, assuming 28 Kxb2 fxe6, throws the puzzle into a nice alternative ending, for those interested.>|
I considered Bxb2+ for a very short moment and forgot it even quicker. Probably because after 28.Kxb2 fxe6 29.Qf2, aiming at a7 and f7, Black looks defenseless.
|Jul-25-15|| ||alshatranji: Thank you patzer2 for the analysis. I wouldn’t want to argue with Deep Fritz, but after 28. Qf3 Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6, the move 30. g6 is worth considering: 30 … Bh6+, 31. Nd2 Kxe7, 32. Qf7+ Kd8, 33. g7|
|Jul-25-15|| ||patzer2: <alshatranji> Yes 28. Qf3 Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6 30. g6 (+3.84 @ 24 depth, Deep Fritz 14 x 64) also wins.|
|Jul-25-15|| ||Jimfromprovidence: <agb2002> <I considered Bxb2+ for a very short moment and forgot it even quicker. Probably because after 28.Kxb2 fxe6 29.Qf2, aiming at a7 and f7, Black looks defenseless.>|
Missed that move. I was looking at 29 g6, seeing that black could exchange queens after which white could put his rook on f7 and get his knight into play.
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|Jul-25-15|| ||morfishine: <Jimfromprovidence> I too pondered 27...Bxb2+ probably for about as long as <agb2002> if not shorter, mainly because the White Knight prevents Black Queen from entering via <a3>|
|Jul-25-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: <morfishine: Great finish by Karpov. I was thinking this was that great game vs Topalov Karpov vs Topalov, 1994 But then realized this was a different game>|
Thanks for the link - ouch for Topa, the loser in at least two immortal games, the other beat down from Kasparov:
Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999
Maybe someone can find a spectacular beating of Topa by either Kramnik or Anand, or both, and then dub them "so and so's immortal" to heap more ignominy upon the Bulgarian GM.
|Jul-25-15|| ||Penguincw: 27.Rxe6 was obvious, but that's the only ply I got.
< Maybe someone can find a spectacular beating of Topa by either Kramnik or Anand, or both, and then dub them "so and so's immortal" to heap more ignominy upon the Bulgarian GM. >
Hate to go against my favourite player, but here's one great game by Kramnik: a king walk done <blindfolded>.
Kramnik vs Topalov, 2003
As for Anand, a couple of games come to my mind right away:
Anand vs Topalov, 2010 (G4) I remember when I first saw this game, I kept constantly reviewing it over and over.
Topalov vs Anand, 2010 Game that clinched Anand his title.
Anand vs Topalov, 2005 A spectacular draw by the 2 players.
Topalov vs Anand, 2005 Again, not a win by Anand, but he was able to hold Topalov to a draw despite being up in a queen ending 2 (split) pawns to zero. If Topalov had won the game, he would've started 7/7. Instead, it was "only" 6.5/7.
|Jul-25-15|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: White has 2 pawns+N+B for a bishop pair, but black threatens Qxa6, Qxa2 and Kxe7. On the other hand, white's majors are lined up vertically towards the black king position (much stronger than the black counterparts), suggesting a breakthrough sac on e6.|
27.Rxe6! gives white a quick path to victory after direct acceptance:
A) 27... fxe6? 28.Qxe6 Bxb2+ (Qxa6? 29.Qf7+ Kd7 30.e8=Q#) 29.Kd1! and black has no defense to the threat Qf7+ followed by mate.
B) 27... Qxa6 28.Qf4! Qxf1+ (fxe6+? 29.Qf7+ etc) 29.Qxf1 fxe6 30.g6! Bxb2+ (Kxe7 31.Qf7+ Kd8 32.Qxg7 Re8 33.Kd2 (not Nd2?? Re1#) is a winning endgame.
C) 27... Qxa2 28.Rxd6 Qxb2+ (or Bxb2+) 29.Kd2 - the white king is safe and white is a piece up with the threat of 30.Bb5+ forcing mate.
All I have time for - time for review.
|Jul-25-15|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: I also considered 28.Rxf7 in line B, but didn't work it through correctly.|
|Jul-26-15|| ||devere: <agb2002: <Jimfromprovidence: 27...Bxb2+, assuming 28 Kxb2 fxe6, throws the puzzle into a nice alternative ending, for those interested.>|
I considered Bxb2+ for a very short moment and forgot it even quicker. Probably because after 28.Kxb2 fxe6 29.Qf2, aiming at a7 and f7, Black looks defenseless.>
27...Bxb2+ does look like Black's best try. After 28. Kxb2 fxe6 29. Qf2 Qe5+ 30. Kc1 Kd7 31. Qa7+ Kc6 Black is barely alive, but can still hope for a tactical error.
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|Jul-26-15|| ||thegoodanarchist: <Penguincw:>
Thanks for the game links! The blindfold game was just crazy.
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