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|Apr-09-11|| ||Phony Benoni: This game feels more like Karpov's fault. Not that Yasser didn't play well. If the earlier kibitzing is accurate saying the first twenty moves were prepared analysis, he gets a lot of credit for refuting it at the board with seemingly effortless ease.|
But it just doesn't feel like a Karpov game, with his usual quiet but irresistable combination of logic and precision.
As <Honza Cervanka> pointed out earlier, we have numerous examples of Karpov playing "a la Tal" and succeeding brilliantly. But it just doesn't seem right, and you have to wonder if Karpov felt that too. It was almost as if he felt he had to be brilliant on occasion just to show that he was a complete player who could do it all. Sometimes, things will come unstuck that way.
|Apr-09-11|| ||HeMateMe: I remember playing through this game went it first came out, early 80s, in the USA press, probably Chess Life mag. |
Regarding the seemingly trapped Knight on a7, the annotator wrote "...black has nothing but for to take the Knight and test white's play."
The implication seemed that Karpov didn't know that the Knight was
'poisoned'. I'm guessing Karpov knew at this point that he was losing, but he had to go ahead and grab the Knight, and get it over with.
|Apr-09-11|| ||sevenseaman: POTD and this one; a thriller, a 'poisoned' horse and an antithesis!|
|Apr-09-11|| ||perfidious: <MaxxLange: I wonder if this was before or after Korchnoi hired Yasser as a training partner?>|
Korchnoi made Seirawan the proposal after Wijk aan Zee 1980.
|Apr-09-11|| ||Llawdogg: Good choice for Game of the Day honors!|
|Apr-09-11|| ||profK: Surely 12...Na6 is a pretty ordinary move! All Blacks white square problems stem fron this.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||KKDEREK: Awesome game..To beat Karpov in that fashion on 1982 (!) shows hows super strong Seirawan was..|
|Apr-09-11|| ||puzzlepatzer: According to Seirawan's winning chess brilliancies, after black resigned,<Suddenly I was showered in warm applause and received a mighty embrace from Korchnoi, who had watched the whole game. I was immediately enrolled in the rather exclusive $400 Club. To become a member, you have to beat Karpov in tournament play. A check for $400 then arrives with compliments from Victor Korchnoi.>|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Wyatt Gwyon: I recall the rook lift being Korchnoi's idea|
|Apr-09-11|| ||kevin86: Karpov was the champ at the time.
Did anyone see the 1986 Masters show the other day (this is the 25th anniversary of Jack Nicklaus' final major.---Its title was referring to Vern Lundquist's call on the 17th hole:"Yes,sir!"
|Apr-09-11|| ||Penguincw: Somehow,I don't get the pun.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Greengrass: <penquin> It is from a song:|
"Yes sir, that's my baby.
No sir, I don't mean maybe."
|Apr-09-11|| ||FSR: This is the ninth pun I submitted that CG has used, all since December 14. Later in the same year as this game, Karpov improved with 13...b5!, winning crushingly in Seirawan vs Karpov, 1982.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Gilmoy: <slowrobot: [Seirawan's] talk of his material advantage is confusing to me, because ... he's only up a pawn after he sacrifices the exchange ...> He had B+N vs. R, and Black's d5-pawn is weak. So Black can't just defend, and must seek complications somewhere.|
<... and material is dead even after black's pawn capture on b2.> But Black paid a heavy strategic price for it: he didn't have the tempi to steal a pawn <and> dodge the Nd4-Nc6 tour. Then b2 was just a slo-mo trade for a7, so he's still down a pawn, his Rs are split, his back rank is messed up, and White's a-pawn looms as an even bigger problem. Note how White's Bf3 hasn't wasted a single tempo through all this.
When White shifts to K-side, Black is left stranded, with all his pieces just awful: the Qa7 doesn't even have a spite check.
|Apr-09-11|| ||Everett: <FSR> Yes, that's true, but Seirawan helped by going wrong immediately in that game with 14.Qa5, where 14.Qd1 would keep white with a good game.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Domdaniel: <FSR> Yes, Karpov had a lethal improvement ready when Seirawan played the same line a few months later. It was in a tournament filmed by the BBC, where the players recorded their thoughts and ideas straight after the game, as if it was live commentary.|
Seirawan's stream-of-consciousness was brilliant - the best bit of chess TV I've seen, and among the best TV of any kind.
Something like ... "I don't believe this, he's playing the same line I beat him with ... but I've been through this so many times, showing it off ... how could anything go wrong? I'm going to beat Karpov again. Uh-oh, he varied with ...b5. But it must be a bluff. I just carry on, and oh no. No no no. I'm lost. It's so hot in here. Why did I wear a tie?"
A great performer, Yasser. And not just on the chessboard.
|Apr-09-11|| ||Check It Out: Yasser's visiting the local chess club here in Seattle tomorrow for a lecture and book signing. Think I'll go <check it out>.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Penguincw: < Greengrass: <penquin> It is from a song:|
"Yes sir, that's my baby.
No sir, I don't mean maybe." >
Well thanks for telling me.
|Apr-09-11|| ||maxi: The opening of this game confuses me in the peculiar way Karpov screws up the opening. Still at move 13 Karpov was fine: 13.a4! b7 14.e3 g4+ and Black is perhaps even better. Then Karpov sacrifices a piece for a Pawn, but has nothing to show for it. Seirawan's 20.f3 is the safest move, but it is one of several good ones; he is in no danger. And then his Kingside attack is very elegant. But, what did Karpov miss?? Why the sacrifice? Does anybody know?|
|Apr-09-11|| ||James Bowman: <maxi> I'm with you Karpov either drops a piece or plays a dubious sacrafice, other than that Yasser's play was good if not exceptional IMHO.|
Interesting game but not worthy of being added to a game collection.
|Apr-09-11|| ||ROO.BOOKAROO: After 31...Rg7, what is the effective continuation for White?|
|Apr-09-11|| ||Phony Benoni: <ROO.BOOKAROO: After 31...Rg7, what is the effective continuation for White?>|
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32.Qe8, threatening 33.Qh8#. Aside from spite checks Black's only defense is 32...g5, but then 33.Be4+ Rg6 34.Qxg6# finishes him off.
|Apr-09-11|| ||sergeidave: Why did Karpov drop that Knight??
GM Seirawan coming to our chess club in Seattle, tomorrow!!! Yes!
|Apr-09-11|| ||Jim Bartle: Apparently Karpov hadn't seen 20. Bf3, protecting the weak pawn on e2. At least that's what Seirawan thought.|
|Apr-09-11|| ||WhiteRook48: Seirawan is a good player... he also beat Kasparov, but only because Kasparov was trying too hard to win|
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