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| Aug-02-16 | | zanzibar: Some helpful guidance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu8...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rb...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX-... |
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| Aug-02-16 | | zanzibar: Shouldn't forget this potential source of toasting etiquette: http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/08/w... |
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Aug-03-16
 | | offramp: I am pretty sure this is the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pav... |
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| Aug-03-16 | | posoo: WHY dos everybody INSIST on EXPLANING with da LINKS? I cannot VIEW them on my cumpoter. SOMONE PLEASE just TELL ME DA ANSWER. |
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| Aug-03-16 | | zanzibar: Poorso...
Most of my links involve riffing on the drinking theme, specifically, Russian-style drinking. Offramp seems to be riffing on how baffling the pun is, and his obvious delight causes me to suspect he might even have submitted it. E.g., despite not being able to view the video he linked, due to copyright issues, I do think the lyrics are telling: <
"And Your Bird Can Sing" (Beatles)
You tell me that you've got everything you want
And your bird can sing
But you don't get me, you don't get me
You say you've seen Seven Wonders and your bird is green
But you can't see me, you can't see me
When your prized possessions start to weigh you down
Look in my direction, I'll be 'round, I'll be 'round
When your bird is broken will it bring you down
You may be awoken, I'll be 'round, I'll be 'round
You tell me that you've heard every sound there is
And your bird can swing
But you can't hear me, you can't hear me>
But <offramp> is rather inscrutable, and I could easily be mistaken. Still, if you can view <CG>, you should be able to view this link, previously posted: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!t... I'll pop in later to uncork the puzzle and slowly pour out the solution (at least, what I think is the solution, ymmv). |
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Aug-03-16
| | offramp: <Posoo>, I think that clears it up. |
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| Aug-03-16 | | posoo: YOU ARE ALL driving da old posoo even DEAPER into fits of madnus and despare. |
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Aug-03-16
 | | perfidious: There is one way to clarify things, and that way home is to flush, liberally. |
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| Aug-03-16 | | morfishine: Sorry <zanzibar> Nice try Trying to tie "uncorked" to the game-title is a laborious, tedious and in the-end, useless stretch of the imagination, that nets out as a gigantic waste of time, thank you very much But, on a positive note, this is for the most part, par-for-the-course around here ***** |
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| Aug-03-16 | | zanzibar: <Trying to tie "uncorked" to the game-title is a laborious, tedious and in the-end, useless stretch of the imagination, that nets out as a gigantic waste of time, thank you very much> Wow, tough crowd.
But absent even the most feeble attempt at improvement... Here's <sd>'s first comment from rec.games.chess.misc: <In this game of the URS-ch 1988; Moscow, Karpov uncorked a pawn
sacrifice for the long term:
click for larger viewPlaying 16. d5!>
Until I found this snippet, I really had no clue about the pun - well, see below. But I would agree that 16.d5! is rather uncorking, as far as corked moves go. And after the uncorking, Karpov's play has one move after another worthy of a toast - Russian-style - giving Anatoly full rights to his drink. Of course, Yusupov, loosing in such fashion, also deserves his drink. With slightly different meaning. Now, there is another possible explanation of the pun... Check out the path of White's queen during the game: <d1-c2-e4-e3-a3-a5-b4-d4-b4-d6-f4-f8> which might be described as a bit of a drunken walk, if we didn't know the method in Karpov's madness. Of course, these interpretations are mere conjectures, as I didn't compose the pun. But until someone can do better: <Zanzibar-2 and Morfishine-0>
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| Aug-03-16 | | zanzibar: <The jackal yaps, but the caravan still passes. SBD> |
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| Aug-03-16 | | SpiritedReposte: So I think the pun is in reference to the quote "chess is an ocean that A GNAT (Anatoly) may drink and an elephant may bathe". |
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| Aug-03-16 | | zanzibar: <SR> oh, that's a good one too, perhaps even better. |
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| Aug-03-16 | | RandomVisitor: Since Karpov's 16.d5 cxd5 17.Bb5 seems to sputter after 17...Qc2 18.Nd4 Qc5, does white have anything better? How about:
click for larger viewKomodo-10.1-64bit:
<+0.87/45 16.Bxe6 fxe6 17.h4 Kd8 18.Rh3> Kc8 19.Ng5 h6 20.Ne4 Qd5 21.Qg3 e5 22.Qb3 Re6 23.Qxd5 cxd5 24.Rc3+ Kb8 25.Nc5 Nxc5 26.Rxc5 Rhe8 27.Rxd5 exd4 28.Rxe6 Rxe6 29.Rxd4 Kc7 30.Rd2 Kc6 31.f3 b6 32.Kf2 Rf6 33.Kg3 h5 34.Kf2 Rf4 35.g3 Rf6 36.Ke3 Kc5 37.Ke4 a5 38.Rc2+ Kb5 39.Ke3 Rd6 40.a3 Rd7 41.Ke4 Rd1 42.b3 a4 |
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| Aug-04-16 | | posoo: SPIRATED RUPOOST, u are da only man who understands da old posoo. BLESSINGS UPON YOU, for I have been brought SOOKOR. |
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Aug-04-16
| | offramp: Spirated Rupoost has indeed brought sookor. |
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| Aug-04-16 | | zanzibar: I still have some hesitation in considering Karpov a gnat (or a mosquito for that matter). Who came up with the pun? |
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| Aug-06-16 | | SpiritedReposte: Yea when it comes to playing chess, Karpov is/was indeed an elephant. |
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| Aug-06-16 | | zanzibar: Agreed, though I'm firmly in the present tense camp... http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...
Still above 2600 in all three ratings... (though rapid is most recent, with lasted standard rated game 1.5 years ago, and blitz way back in 2012). |
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| Aug-06-16 | | RandomVisitor: After 12...Qa5+
click for larger viewKomodo-10.1-64bit:
<+0.66/43 13.Kf1 Qf5 14.Qe3 Kd7> 15.d5 cxd5 16.Bb5+ Nc6 17.h4 Rac8 18.Re1 Rc7 19.Qxa7 Qd3+ 20.Bxd3 Nxa7 21.h5 Rhc8 22.hxg6 hxg6 23.Rh7 Kd6 24.Ng5 Nc6 25.Bxg6 Ne5 26.Rh6 fxg6 27.f4 Bf5 28.fxe5+ Kd7 29.Rh7+ Ke8 30.Rxc7 Rxc7 31.Kf2 Ke7 32.b3 d4 33.Re2 d3 34.Rd2 Rc5 35.Nf3 Ke6 36.Ke3 g5 37.g3 g4 38.Nd4+ Kxe5 39.Nxf5 Kxf5 40.Kxd3 Rd5+ 41.Ke3 Rxd2 42.Kxd2 Ke4 43.Ke2 Kd4 44.a4 |
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Aug-13-16
 | | chessgames.com: <Who came up with the pun?> Daniel Freeman takes full blame. And yes, it's an obscure reference to the Indian saying. |
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| Aug-13-16 | | ragtag: <Anatoly> I somehow read only an anagram of it. |
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| Dec-28-19 | | cSete: Karpov didn't stop after the beatdown. He took his lunch money too. Not one of Yusupov's better days. Brutal..... |
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| Feb-12-21 | | fisayo123: The superb pawn sacrifice 16. d5!! and 23. h4! were the star moves of this one , in what was a flawlessly played game by Karpov over a top 10 player at the time as Karpov demolishes Jussupow's novelty 8... Nxe4!? Karpov (in 1998) analyzes the game here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiJ... |
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| May-13-22 | | Llera: After 24.Ng5!, Mark Taimanov writes in "The Soviet Chess Championships":
"Now the threat is 25 Rxe6! fxe6 26 g4! Qh6 27 Nf7+, so Black's reply is forced." [Black's reply was 24...Rf8 to avoid the Knight check in f7.]
But Mark Taimanov missed something. If White is allowed to play on his next move 25.Re6?? then Black replies with 25...Qd1+ 26.Re1 Qxe1# mate or 26...Rxe1# mate. Mark Taimanov overlooked this mate!
Interestingly, Antonio Gude also overlooked this mate in Revista Internacional de Ajedrez, Extra 1: Campeonato de la URSS 1988, where he writes:
"Se amenazaba 25. Txe6 y 26. g4, ganando la dama. (Antonio Gude)" ("Threatening 25.Rxe6 and 26.g4, winning the Queen"); but as I have written, if 25.Rxe6?? then 25...Qd1 and Black mates. |
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