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|May-01-05|| ||hintza: Oh my! I had no idea this game existed. Playing this against Karpov takes real guts!|
|May-01-05|| ||aw1988: <but what do I know.> You easily refuted my easily refutable worthless post. :)|
|May-01-05|| ||acirce: <WMD> refuted mine. I removed it to avoid confusion.|
|May-01-05|| ||offramp: I like the way that Karpov plays 13.Nxc5 to double bkack's pawns, but with his next move, 14.b4, gives him the chance to undouble them.|
|May-08-05|| ||MrSifter: Strong play by Karpov during his (violent) candidates match with Nigel Short which composed of almost all decisive games, very unusual for a Karpov match. There was a big psychological front and the Nige prevailed with a win in the final encounter.|
|May-08-05|| ||Poisonpawns: This was Karpov`s only match loss outside of Kasparov up untli this time and broke the string of K-K matches in the world championship.What is impressive also is during his run at the title i think Short was only rated about 2660,while Karpov and Kasparov were well into the 2700 and still at the height of their powers.|
|May-27-05|| ||offramp: You would half expect that Short would have been given under-the-counter help from Kasparov for this match. But if you look at the openings played this does not seem to be the case.|
|May-27-05|| ||Poisonpawns: I think Kavalek was Shorts coach during this time.Am i corresct?|
|Oct-06-05|| ||Queens Gambit: Nice game in the rare Budapest Gambit|
|Apr-09-06|| ||notyetagm: Hard to believe that Short tried this garbage against Karpov of all people. What did he think would happen? He was busted long before the game ended.|
|Apr-09-06|| ||Eggman: Answers / responses to various:
Yes, Kavalek (who also worked with Fischer back in '72) was Short's coach. They had a parting of the ways during Short's match with Kasparov.
Karpov actually has had some bad results against supposedly dubious openings, losing with White against the Scandinavian, an irregular variation of the Petroff, and also the St. George:
Karpov vs Larsen, 1979
Karpov vs Larsen, 1980
Karpov vs Miles, 1980
|Apr-09-06|| ||Zebra: <Poisonpawns: After 11..b6? by Nigel the game is strategically over,as Karpov immediately takes the c5 bishop and destroys the queenside pawns.>|
I don't like the look of ...b6 either, but Short was clearly not unhappy with this line as he played it against Ivanchuk a year later (and drew). Ivanchuk vs Short, 1993
|Jan-28-08|| ||Nigel Short: Far from "being busted long before the game ended" (notyetagm) right before the time control I could have played 39...Rxd6 40.Bxd6 Qg6 41.Qxg4 Qxg4 42.hxg4 h3 with adequate compensation.
From a theoretical point of view, I might add that it is hard to point out any advantage to white in the opening after 19...Qxe5 20.Bxe5 Rc8! as Black will follow up with f6, Be6 and Rb6.
It would seem that many of the comments here are cases of annotating by result.|
|Sep-12-08|| ||Woody Wood Pusher: The Budapest Gambit against Karpov...that is the funniest thing I have seen all month! Surely Short could play, but sometimes he made life tougher than it had to be for himself!|
|Nov-02-08|| ||notyetagm: <Nigel Short: Far from "being busted long before the game ended" (notyetagm) right before the time control I could have played 39...Rxd6 40.Bxd6 Qg6 41.Qxg4 Qxg4 42.hxg4 h3 with adequate compensation.>|
Sorry, GM Short. I would not have written that if I had known that *you* were going to read it. :-)
|Nov-02-08|| ||hrvyklly: <Nigel Short: ... It would seem that many of the comments here are cases of annotating by result.> Nice turn of phrase, I will have to remember that. And <hintza> is right, it took real guts from you to play this against Karpov.|
|Nov-04-08|| ||VaselineTopLove: <It would seem that many of the comments here are cases of annotating by result.>|
That and also because of the choice of opening played. Generally, the public is less critical of players who lose games after playing more sound openings and more critical of players who lose after playing openings that aren't as sound or in vogue.
|Dec-01-08|| ||MaczynskiPratten: "Annotating by result" was what Bill Hartston also referred to as the VITAMIN school of chess commentary - Virtue Is Triumphant and Always Murders Ignorant Numbskulls - every move of the winner is great and every move of the loser is wrong ...with hindsight of course ...|
|Dec-01-08|| ||Woody Wood Pusher: <The rest of the game is the struggle of the Of the rat trying to get out of the squeeze of the python>|
hahahahaha u said it!
|Dec-25-08|| ||parmetd: I still love the comments Short said about this game in Hoffman's book the King's Gambit. Wonderful psychology play by Short to show Karpov he was willing to play ANYTHING. It would be his territory on which the battle was to be fought.|
|Dec-25-08|| ||parmetd: also let us not forget who won this matchup eh? :)|
|Jan-23-09|| ||Fusilli: <<parmetd>: I still love the comments Short said about this game in Hoffman's book the King's Gambit.> Ditto that. BTW, Paul Hoffman's book is highly recommendable. I thoroughly enjoyed it.|
|Feb-02-09|| ||ToTheDeath: Short would never venture this crap against Kasparov.|
|Feb-03-09|| ||M.D. Wilson: Call it crap if you want, ToTheDeath, but Short shouldn't have played an opening like this against Karpov. Just madness.|
|Dec-06-09|| ||The Rocket: "Far from "being busted long before the game ended" (notyetagm) right before the time control I could have played 39...Rxd6 40.Bxd6 Qg6 41.Qxg4 Qxg4 42.hxg4 h3 with adequate compensation."|
I disagre nigel this opening is bad because of the fact that white gets the bishop pair with this variation(the best one) in an open position and black has exactly what in return?. It may be ok but why would you want to play stuff like this if you dont get anything dangerous from it.
This view is also shared by other grandmasters and which is why the opening is almost never played.
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