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Larry Mark Christiansen vs Anatoly Karpov
"L.P.D.O." (game of the day Dec-27-2007)
Hoogovens Knockout (1993), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-18
Queen's Indian Defense: Petrosian Variation. Farago Defense (E12)  ·  1-0
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May-07-11  MatrixManNe0: I've heard it translated as <Jim Bartle> translated it and didn't know that you <Mozart72> were using that saying.

<Mozart72> I don't understand how my refutations are softwareish? I mean, it's nice that you liken my intellect to that of a computer, but, really, I'm not that smart. :)

Also, nowhere did you stipulate in your original post that we were starting after 12. Qd1. In which case, I would argue

12... Qh4 13. Bc1 Bc5 14. Nb1 Qxf2#

May-08-11
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  Jim Bartle: A devastating counterattack by black! And I see no way for white to stop it.
May-08-11  Mozart72: <Jim Bartle> >MatrixManNe0> You got the idea. Make the winner lose, the loser win, etc.
May-09-11  MatrixManNe0: <Mozart72> No, I don't get the idea. Because it's pointless. cf. the Christiansen game.
May-09-11  MatrixManNe0: That is, cf. the Morphy game.
Jan-03-12  Bengambit: White's Queen gets to double attack from the start,if,13.....Bf4??,trying to salvage the loss of a piece,14.Qxh4,naturally leaves black short handed and out of position equals,loss of time and material from the opening with no clue of how to win from here,unless white is a pure novice,game over for black...........
Feb-19-12  ArtsewS: I made a Youtubevideo on this game a while ago called Karpov is human. It's under 2 minutes. If you like you can view it by clicking the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frpl...
May-08-12  vinidivici: why this was the game of the day...?
May-08-12  JohnDahl: Pour encourager les autres.
May-08-12  sneaky pete: What Karpov said when afterwards Christiansen suggested they'd analyse the game together: Go to l'enfer.
Jul-30-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Christiansen vs Karpov, 1993.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF CHRISTIANSEN.
Your score: 19 (par = 10)

LTJ

Feb-11-13  alachabre: Just a casual response to the Mozart72 kerfuffle. I managed to screw up the White position playing against Houdini. I did alright for about seven moves, but Black threw a nifty bishop capture on g2 that evened the position. The Mozart72 analysis is deeply flawed (yeah I know, Captain Obvious here) by its almost immediate giving up of the dark square bishop on c3. Patzer that I am, I realized the dark squares are the key, and my play against Houdini was centered on the attempt to remove it. Houdini would not bite.
Aug-01-14  Ke2: This Petrosian Variation is the Maroczy bind formation (pawns on c4 & e4), leading to Black shuffling around passively. Sudden thunderbolts can appear when Black lacks a plan. (Not saying it's a bad opening, but just the style of it.)
Aug-16-14  Tigranny: Is this the game in which Christiansen asked, "Would you like to go over and analyze the game?"

Anyways atrocious blunder by Karpov that early in the opening.

Jun-08-15  Ferari: Kasparov said that Karpov would have beaten Fischer in their match, because Karpov never made really bad blunders. I wonder if he ever saw this game, and if he changed his opinion on the subject?
Jun-09-15
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  keypusher: <Ferari: Kasparov said that Karpov would have beaten Fischer in their match, because Karpov never made really bad blunders.>

He didn't say either of those things.

<I wonder if he ever saw this game, and if he changed his opinion on the subject?>

I'm sure he was aware of the game. Of course, he wasn't writing about a hypothetical Fischer-Karpov match in 1993.

The tirelessness of Fischer fanatics on behalf of their recalcitrant hero is really quite enervating. We'll never know what would have happened in a Fischer-Karpov match, because Fischer quit. Get over it.

Jun-29-15  alboy89: If Fischer- Karpov happened, Karpov would have been a much better player!!
Oct-30-15
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  thegoodanarchist: <Ferari: Kasparov said that Karpov would have beaten Fischer in their match, because Karpov never made really bad blunders. I wonder if he ever saw this game, and if he changed his opinion on the subject?>

Incredible claim by Kasparov, especially considering that Gary was a spectator for this infamous blunder game:

Korchnoi vs Karpov, 1974

This game was played when Kasparov was still a boy, and even he saw immediately that 12...Rb8 was a blunder.

Jun-27-17
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  Marmot PFL: I believe that Kasparov did say Karpov would beat Fischer, after seeing the 1992 Fischer-Spassky match which he thought was very badly played.
Jun-28-17  Muttley101: Kasparov's comments about the 1992 Fischer Spassky match were pretty dismissive (calling both "dinosaurs" and saying any 2700 player would have beaten Fischer).

Well, a couple of things.

1) check out Fischer's rating performance for beating Spassky.

2) Kasparov annotated the first game, Fischer pointed out that one of Kasparov's suggestions lost out of hand (either get mated or drop a piece, I think), missing the tactics that Fischer had seen in the game.

In the 1990s, after not playing for 20 years in international chess, Fischer still saw things Kasparov missed.

If only they had played. Chess, Karpov and Fischer would have all won, even if Fischer had lost.

Jun-28-17
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  perfidious: <keypusher....The tirelessness of Fischer fanatics on behalf of their recalcitrant hero is really quite enervating. We'll never know what would have happened in a Fischer-Karpov match, because Fischer quit. Get over it.>

I'll sign that.

Jun-28-17
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  Petrosianic: <Muttley101>:

<1) check out Fischer's rating performance for beating Spassky.>

It was about 2640, which seems to support the claim.

Jun-28-17
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  parmetd: Although do keep in mind that Kasparov is not an unbiased party in that matter either.
Jun-28-17
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  thegoodanarchist: Now I know that I can play like Karpov!
Jun-28-17  Howard: Inside Chess, as I recall, gave Fischer's performance rating for the "rematch", but I don't recall exactly what it was.

But, it did state that if the match had been FIDE-rated, Spassky would have picked up enough points to place him around 20th in the world!

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