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May-24-08
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| kingscrusher: I have video annotated this classic game here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otYy... |
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| Aug-15-08 |
| Woody Wood Pusher: I was analysing the game and Master Chess (32 bit 20 MHz) doesn't see 20. Rxe6 at all even after 2h 30 mins analysis time! It gives the line 20. Bxc6,Ra7 21.Qd3,Rxc6 22.cxb5, axb5 and equality (0.0 eval!) This thing usually gets most sacrifices in seconds, but not this one! Has anyone analysed the position with a powerful computer program? Does Fritz 10 or Rybka come up with 20. Rxe6! Its such an amazing move! after 21. Rxg6 +, fxg6 the evaluation drops to -2.0 for black LOL this machine has no chance of understanding Karpov's chess, no wonder Topalov didn't know what hit him! |
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| Sep-09-08 |
| Whitehat1963: I'm probably not the first to make this comment, but isn't it an interesting coincidence that both Kasparov and Karpov have games against Topalov that are considered their "immortal" games? |
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| Sep-25-08 |
| bakuazer: <whitehat1963:I'm probably not the first to make this comment, but isn't it an interesting coincidence that both Kasparov and Karpov have games against Topalov that are considered their "immortal" games?> It is incredible that even though I have known this game and Kasparov's game for quite a while, today I wanted to comment that both Kasparov and Karpov have played their possibly greatest games against Topalov, and just when I started typing it, I saw <whitehat1963> has already said it. |
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| Nov-01-08 |
| thebribri8: You two aren't the only ones to notice this either! (<daniellovesbeer>) |
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| Nov-11-08 |
| The Rocket: This is probably Karpovs greatest game ever.
The amazing thing about this game is that these rook sacks are sound! |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| swarmoflocusts: <Does Fritz 10 or Rybka come up with 20. Rxe6! Its such an amazing move!> Fritz 11 sees it in a second flat. |
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| Feb-21-09 |
| holygrail: Why are we so reliant on computers? I think chess has lost class because of them! IT's ridiculous! It's pretty much steroid chess! 20. Rxe6 is a great sacrifice and probably didn't use a computer because he IS just that good! |
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| Feb-22-09 |
| swarmoflocusts: <Why are we so reliant on computers? I think chess has lost class because of them!> This is absolutely true. However, computers are tools which take our tactical analysis to a whole new level, and chess wouldn't be the game it is today without them. <20. Rxe6 is a great sacrifice> No one is denying this. |
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| Feb-22-09 |
| Woody Wood Pusher: I keep coming back to this game, it really is one of the greatest of all time. Karpov says of Linares '94
<This was the tournament of my life. I achieved an unprecedented rating performance of 3000 Elo. Nine wins, four draws and no losses in a world-class event is a result for the Guinness book of records.That year 12 was a lucky number for me: it was the 12th tournament in Linares, and it is well know that I was the 12th World Champion. That my opponent in this game, Veselin Topalov, would become FIDE world champion eleven years later, was something I could not imagine...> Here are some of his notes:
After 2.c4 c5
Karpov chose 3.Nf3!? because Topalov had chosen a rare move order himself and Karpov wanted to avoid his home preparation. 10.Bg5 was also possible, with indirect pressure on d6 11.e3! was a valuable novelty, since the usual continuation 11.Be3 gives White only a slight advantage. 14...g6 is forced because Black must prevent the advance of the f-pawn even at the cost of weakening his KS pawn structure. Karpov calls
20.Rxe6!
'The triump of White's light square strategy! The Rook, like a hurricane, sweeps away everything in its path. Of course this blow had to be forseen before the knight foray to c5. 20.Bxc6 would not win a piece, and after 20...Ra7 21.Qd3 Rxc6 22.cxb5 c4 23.Qf3 Rc8 it would have led to a complicated position' 21.Rxg6!
Black is obliged to accept the sacrifice, since otherwise he loses by force: 21...Kf8 22.Qh3 fxg6 23.Qh8+ Kf7 24.Bd5 mate,
or 21...Kh7 22.Qh3+ Kxg6 23.Be4+ Kg7 24.Qh7+ followed by mate. |
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| Feb-22-09 |
| Woody Wood Pusher: After
26.bxa6
Has White not gained too many pawns for the sacrificed exchange? 28.Rxd4!
A rare instance-the third rook sacrifice in the game! I cannot remember anything similar happening in grandmaster play. 32.Qe5+
32.Nxc5 Rd1+ 32.Kh2 Qf1 34.Qe5+ Kh6 35. Qg5+ Kh7 36.Qe5+ This would have won more simply, However Karpov did not have enough time to work out the exact move sequence. Black would have saved himself in an amusing way in the variation 36...Rd1+ 37.Kg2 Rg1+ 38.Kxg1? Qd1 39.Kg2 Qh1+! 40.Kxh1 stalemate! However, White is not obliged to take the rook
38.Kh3 Rh1+ 39.Kg4 and it is all over
Karpov closes with
'A pretty game, wouldn't you agree? Not surprisingly, it won the next competition for the best game in Informator (cf Volume 61, 1994) A truly amazing game! |
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| Feb-23-09 |
| WhiteRook48: nice game by Karpov, although I think his immortals are his wins vs Kasparov |
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Mar-26-09
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| parisattack: Karpov also analyzes this game in detail in his book, How to Play the English Opening. |
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| Apr-17-09 |
| WhiteRook48: why is it that Topalov was crashed by both Karpov and Kasparov in their immortals and both immortals involved rook sacs? |
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| Apr-26-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Topalov knows how to lose to world champions |
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| Jun-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: computers will ruin chess |
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| Aug-04-09 |
| WhiteRook48: 21 Rxg6+ is a great move |
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| Sep-07-09 |
| BotanicalKnight: Great game!! |
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| Sep-17-09 |
| Wayne Proudlove: Karpov's my favourite player, just by the way that he looks. lol
But seriously, if you are not a prodigy or an overzealous achiever I think that studying the games of solid positional players like him or Capablanca is the best method to reach your highest potential at the game. |
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| Oct-18-09 |
| kingsindian2006: anyone else know if karpov won other tourneys in 2004? im wondering if he had a year like topa did in 2005 but maybe in 1994? |
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Oct-18-09
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| JaneEyre: I can't find Linares Ftacnik on Google Maps. |
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Oct-18-09
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| JaneEyre: <anyone else know if karpov won other tourneys in 2004?> If you wanted to know Roger Federer's record in 2004, you could do so very easily. But an online database of similar quality for chess? Forget it! |
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| Oct-18-09 |
| Astardis: < kingsindian2006: anyone else know if karpov won other tourneys in 2004? im wondering if he had a year like topa did in 2005 but maybe in 1994? > Quite a few people expected him to even cross the 2800 mark in 94 but unfortunately after Linares he didn't manage to repeat such success. He came in only 6th in Monaco and second both in Dos Hermanas (behind Gelfand) and Las Palmas (behind Kamsky). Then there was a dumb KO-format tourney in Tilburg where he lost in the semifinale. After that there was a thematic tournament in Buenos Aires - all Sicilian which Karpov finished shared 5th. He eventually won a match against Lautier 4:2. |
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Oct-18-09
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| JaneEyre: <Quite a few people expected....> Can you name any of them? |
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| Oct-20-09 |
| Astardis: <JaneEyre: Can you name any of them?> Well... me, to start with. And certainly other chess spectators, as well. It didn't seem quite so unreasonable. He got to 2780 after Linares and keeping that form throughout the entire year he most certainly would have broken the 2800 barrier. |
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