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|Jan-16-05|| ||Hinchliffe: As soon as Kamsky dropped his queen on g3 the game became difficult if not lost. A mistake all chess players have made one time or another and one that we all continue to make. It is so hard to understand why we make this particular error perhaps it is due to a lack of time or just we are so focused on trying to find a defence that we forget that the pin is always going to screw us. That said a fantastic game full of interesting possibilities. So guys and gals computers at the ready see what are the possibilties and what have we missed. |
|Apr-24-05|| ||Karpova: 12...qb6! a novelty which is better than 12...bd7
17...ne7! black gets the upper hand after this surprising manoeuver.
19.nc4 karpov's play against the isolani is very instructive. (19.d5? ne3: 20.nd7: rd7: 21.de nd1: 22.ed nf2: and black is better)
22.ne5 (22.g4? g5!)
30..re4! the rook paralyses white's position
33...h6! a nice prophylactic measure that emphasizes white's helplessness
39.rc4? white wastes his only chance during the whole game to get rid of his isolated pawn by 39.d5!
39...bf8! the bishop is ready to get to the h2-ba8 diagonale. the fight is over
40...qe6 (40...wd5! was more precise)
44...qe5! 45. nh3? (white loses quickly) 45...qe7! a very elegant win by karpov!
|Dec-09-05|| ||Paul123: Kamsky's fatal mistake against Karpov came when he decided to play an opening were an IQP could come about. |
Its been said many times that Karpov with either side, with or without the pawn...was probably the best to ever to play positions in which there was an IQP.
Beacuse of Karpov the Tarrasch is dead at the GM level.
|Dec-09-05|| ||Eric Schiller: <paul123> Yes, and Kamsky should have known, considering Karpov's expertise led Kasparov to abandon the Tarrasch Defense during the 1984 marathon match. I love IQP positions, but even so I'd not play them against Karpov!|
|Dec-14-05|| ||Gypsy: Two games earlier, the play went this way: Kamsky vs Karpov, 1996.|
|Apr-10-06|| ||offramp: After 40 years of professional chess Karpov shows how he is open to new ideas in chess.|
Normally a black piece - often a knight - would stay at d5 to blockade the IQP. But that is the old-fashioned way. The modern way is to keep pieces on and keep attacking the pawn so that white's pieces end up in a defensive position. So that instead of the usual N/d5 B/b7 setup, we get the piece formation as happened in this game.
40...Qd5 might have been quicker.
|Apr-10-06|| ||Open Defence: <radu stancu> this game might give you some ideas against the Panov- Botvinnik attack
<Emperor> as you can see the Nimzo can transpose into these Caro-Kan type positions|
|Dec-10-06|| ||Octavia: This was game Nr. 4 of their match. Karpov lost Nr. 2 with the identical opening & talks about both games in his book "Caro-Kann Verteidigung... richtig gespielt" translator Dagobert Kohlmeyer.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Karpova: <Octavia>
There's actually just a short mentioning of game 2. Makes sense due to the fact that the move 12...Qb6! was the valuable theoretical novelty in this game (12..Bd7 was played in game 2).
|Jan-10-07|| ||Brown: <Hinchliffe:> Kamsky didn't drop his Q immediately, he dropped his bishop.|
|Feb-19-07|| ||Brown: I would love to see a book by an excellent annotator on Karpov's use of the isolani, with both colors. Perhaps he has played these positions more than anyone on the planet. |
I see two volumes; One for black, one for white.
|Jan-18-08|| ||alexrawlings: Sorry if these are silly questions...
But could anyone tell me:
1) what does IQP stand for?
2) why can't black take the d4 pawn with 12... Nxd4, followed by 13. Nxd4 Qxd4. I guess white would play 14 Bc3 but I would have thought that black would be able to hold onto to the pawn...
|Jan-18-08|| ||micartouse: <alexrawlings>
1) IQP is "isolated queen pawn" or "isolani". There are many good middlegame books that discuss the respective strategies for each side in these positions.
2) I had to look up the book answer because it's a little tricky. Take your line 14. Bc3 Qd8 (avoiding the doubling of pawns on the kingside). 15. Nxf6+ Bxf6 16. Rfd1 and now
16 ... Qe7 17. Qe4 g6 18. Bb4 wins the exchange or
16 ... Bd7 17. Qe4 g6 18. Bb5 pins the piece.
|Mar-20-08|| ||positionalgenius: Another game showing karpov's great abilities.|
|Aug-22-08|| ||ToTheDeath: This is a model game on how to play against an isolated Queen pawn, and how to play for a win with Black.|
<10...Nf6> Prophylactic play preventing 11.Qe4 followed by Qh4 and Bg5 with kingside initiative.
<12...Qb6!> Getting the queen off the back rank and preparing to connect the rooks. Of course Karpov doesn't play 12... Nxd4? 13. Nxd4 Qxd4 14.Bc3 with a big initiative for White.
<13...Bd7> Taking on b2 would lose the queen to 14.Rfb1.
<14...Rfd8> Karpov decides to put his queen's rook on d8, keeping his other rook on f8 in case of Ne5 and Ng5 with threats to f7.
<17...Ne7!!> Again 17...Qxb2? 18.Rfb1 Qc3 19.Bd2 would lose the queen. Karpov sidesteps the threat of 18.d5 and prepares Nf5. If now 18.d5 Qxb2! is a safe capture- Black win two rooks for the Queen.
<19...Qa6!> 19...Qc7 20.Bf4 and 19...Qc6 20.Na5 were considerably weaker. Karpov is unafraid of 20.Ne5 Bb5! with Black in charge of the light squares.
<21...Bd5> Now the problem piece for Black in so many queen's pawn games has achieved an ideal post for attack and defence.>
<22...Qb6> Black is prepared for 23.g4 g5! winning the queen.
<30...Re4!> White has to meet the threat of ...Rg4.
<31...b5!> preventing any activity for White's a1 rook.
<33...h6> a simple patient move making luft in the event of a back rank check.
<35...Rc6> Provoking 36.d5 Rc8 37. Rdc1 b3 38.Rd2 Be5, where White is under heavy pressure.
<38...Bxc6> here again 39.d5 Ba8 40. b3 Be5 is in Black's favour.
<39...Bf8!> Preventing any counterplay with Rb4.
<40...Qe6> A time pressure move, 40...Qd5 41.Ne5 Rxe5 42.Rxc6 Rxe3 wins faster. Black had to avoid 40...Rg4? 41.Ne5! Rxg3 42. Nxd7 Rxg2+ 43.Kh1! when Black has too much hanging.
<43...Bd6!> Not 43...Qa6? 44.Bc5 defending. Now if 44.f4 Qd7! 45.Bd4 (45.Be3 Bxd3 46.Qxd3 Bxf4+ wins) Bxd3 46.Qxd3 Bxf4+ 47. g3 Be5 winning.
<44...Qe5> Now 45.Be3 Qxb2 46.a6 Qc3 and only Black's pawn is promoting.
<45...Qe7> The concluding stroke- the bishop on a7 is lost.
Terrific game by Karpov.
|Mar-12-09|| ||soumen08: I am trying to understand... why play 10...Be7?|
|Mar-24-09|| ||notyetagm: <ToTheDeath: This is a model game on how to play against an isolated Queen pawn, and how to play for a win with Black.>|
|Apr-21-09|| ||ToTheDeath: <notyetagm> Thanks!|
|Mar-03-11|| ||Bryan14: Why not 43. Qa6 ? winning a minor peace no ?|
|Mar-03-11|| ||Sastre: If 43....Qa6, then 44.Bc5 Bg7 45.Nxb4 Qxa5 46.Bd6 keeps White in the game.|
|Jan-06-13|| ||kudubux: My favorite game of the match. Normally, the c8-Bishop is a problem piece in this type of setup but Karpov skillfully frees the Bishop and puts it in the best square and diagonal!|
Notice the g2-pawn being hounded up to no end.
|Jan-24-13|| ||Jonathan Sarfati: A superb example of playing against the I♕♙. A lot of books preach blockading this ♙ with a ♘ in front. But in reality, the I♕♙ can easily work around this and build up a devastating attack. Karpov just controls the blockading square without occupying it, and instead uses his ♘ to attack the ♙. But this game played in the year Karpov was born had a similar strategy Euwe vs Najdorf, 1951|
|Oct-08-14|| ||SpiritedReposte: <Paul123's> comment from Dec 05 was exactly what I was thinking.|
Seems any game of Karpov's where there is an isolated queen pawn, he wins, whatever side he is on.
|Nov-26-14|| ||Hesam7: After 15 Nf6?! White has no advantage. The second mistake seems to have been 17 Be3?! after which Black is slightly better. 18 Ne5?! is the third mistake: |
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Black's position is nearly winning: the weak IQP, White's abandoned Q-side and Black's superior minor pieces.
|May-21-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: Not sure what's wrong with 43.Ne5 followed by f4 if need be.|
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