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|Mar-25-05|| ||sneaky pete: It's Frans Cuijpers. I sent a correction, the duplicate game is Kasparov vs F A Cuijpers, 1980. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||Honza Cervenka: <chessgames.com> This is a game of Frans Andre Cuijpers|
On the other side, there are some games played by Franciscus Antonius Kuijpers in the file of Frans Andre Cuijpers. (At least all games from 1960s and 1970s.)
|Mar-25-05|| ||JustAFish: I found this one exceptionally difficult for a "4-mover". The elements are all there- pins, skewers etc, All the obvious first moves jump out at you as well. The problem is figuring out a way to use them. There's almost an overabundance of tactical ideas, and it is, therefore, difficult to pick the right path. This is the sort of problem where sheer calculation- picking one's way through the decision tree by trial and error- is necessary. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||sidneytorres: At first glance, I wondered if Black could keep going with 28...Qf7. Then if 29 Bxe6, Rxe6 the pin has been removed and perhaps Black could still even the game out. Any comments. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||sidneytorres: At second look, White will at least come out ahead in the exchange. 28...Qf7, 29 Bxe6, Rxe6, 30 Qxe6 and a new pin wins the exchange for white. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||YouRang: Funny, I somehow (intuition?) figured that 24. Nxf5 was the move. But it was beyond me to prove it in my head. No points for me. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||aw1988: I think the combination starts even earlier with 17. f5!!. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||kevin86: Amusing final position-three major tanks ready to crush white's lowly,unprotected rook-who white just put in harm's way---but the leader is pinned!!! Like a bizarre sight of a herd of elephants led by a dead one! |
|Mar-25-05|| ||patzer2: <Honza Cervenka> My choice for today's puzzle solution was 24. Nxe6!, but I didn't see all the subtleties pointed out in your analysis.|
After 24. Nxe6! Ndxe6 25.Nxf5 Qf8 line, Fritz 8 indicates 26. Rd1! or 26. Nd4! are strong winning alternatives to your 26. Ng3! (which apparently wins, but must overcome a bit of resistance after 26.Ng3! Qg7!? 27.Rxe6 Rxf1+ 28.Nxf1 Nxe6 29.Bxe6+ Kh8 30.Qxc5 Re8 ).
|Mar-25-05|| ||Timetraveller: <thesonicvision: 17...Rxf5? > I can't spot anything wrong with this move. The best I can see is 18. Nh4?! but Black seems to be perfectly safe (and up material) after 18... Rxf1+; 19. Qxf1, Bxe6. Any computers care to weigh in on this one? |
|Mar-25-05|| ||patzer2: Kasparov's 24. Nxe5! combines the deflection and the pin for a clear and decisive result for today's puzzle solution. As Honza noted, 24. Nxe6! is a winning alternative, but Garry's choice appears to be a stronger and less complex solution. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||patzer2: <Chessical> I initially thought 20...gxf5?! was a decisive mistake. However, after the alternative 20...Rxf5!? 21.Rxf5 gxf5 22.Ra3 Nd4 (22...Bxe6 23.Nxe6 Nxe6 24.Ng5 Kh8 (24...Qxg5 25.Rg3 ) 25.Nxe6 White appears to have the win well under control. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||aw1988: <patzer2> You usually post (when applicable- so the correct term is probably "you usually refine") when a combination starts earlier or much earlier than when it was actually played. Do you think this starts at 17. f5? |
|Mar-25-05|| ||patzer2: <Timetraveler> After Fritz 8's 17...Rxf4!? 18.Bg5! Bf6 19.Bxf6 Rxf6 20.Ne4 Rf4 21.Nxd6 Bxe6 22.Bxe6+ Qxe6 23.Re1 Qd5 24.Qxd5+ Nxd5 25.Re5 (+0.78 @ 16 depth), White has a clear advantage but no forced win.|
Appears to me 17...Rxf4!? is a reasonably good defense, giving Black decent chances of holding the draw.
|Mar-25-05|| ||patzer2: <aw1988> While 17. f5! does not appear to be a forced win, there is a sense or meaning in which this is the start of the combination. It is a tricky move, giving Black lots of chances to go wrong. Black makes a few subtle mistakes, and before you know it Kasparov pulls off the win.|
I think it was Bobby Fischer who compared this kind of play to Basketball, where you "throw the ball around and look for an opening." I think in that sense that 17. f5! was throwing the ball around, and looking for Black to make a mistake. Of course I could be wrong, and it is possible that Kasparov had worked out a forced win in advance against even the best defense.
|Mar-25-05|| ||Timetraveller: Thanks, <patzer2>. Great analysis. |
|Mar-25-05|| ||patzer2: <aw1988> While I have serious doubts about 17. f5! being the start of a winning combination, it seems to me that 17...Nc6?! 18. Bg5! is a decisive deflection (practically forcing what follows in the game continuation). So, my answer is 18. Bg5! is the start of a winning combination, but the jury is still out on 17. f5! |
|Mar-25-05|| ||aw1988: Perhaps. Anything better than Nc6? |
|Mar-25-05|| ||egsmith: <thesonicvision> I had the same question about 17...Rxf5. I put the position into crafty and basically, in crafty's opinion, Rxf5 will end up with a trade of a rook for a knight or bishop. After the trade a large melee takes place and white has a slight advantage (~0.3 pawn) due to the rook over a minor peice.|
This sequence is typical
17...Rxf5 18. g4 Rf6 19. Bg5 (Ne4) Bxe6 20. Bxf6
and the board clears from here
So I guess Rxf5 is somewhat better.
|Mar-25-05|| ||ThomYorke: What if 15) ... exd5 ? |
|Mar-25-05|| ||ongyj: 15...exd5 is met by 16.Nxd5! After Black's Queen runs away White has a discovered check for instance with 17.Nb6+ wins an exchange at least. |
|Mar-26-05|| ||patzer2: After a long look with Fritz 8 (@22 depth), White appears to be winning with 17...Rxf5 18.Bg5! Bf6 19.Bxf6 Rxf6 20.Ne4 Rf4 21.Nfg5! Rxf1+ 22.Qxf1 d5 23.Nf6+ Kg7 24.Nxd5 Nxd5 25.Bxd5 h6 26.Qf3! hxg5 27.Rf1! Bxe6 28.Bxe6 Nc6 29.Qc3+ Nd4 30.Rf7+ Qxf7 31.Bxf7 Kxf7 32. Qxc5 . If there's not an improvement for Black here, which wouldn't surprise me, then 17. f5! Rxf5 18. Bg5! is a forced win. |
|Apr-03-05|| ||thesonicvision: 18. Bg5! is what I missed.
Although not a clear cut
victory for White, the complexities
were probably too much for black.
However, I don't see how
his chosen response was any better.
A psychological blunder, in my
|Jul-19-06|| ||Bufon: This game should be baptized as "How not to play a Benoni".|
|Jan-10-07|| ||adviser: Kasparov always goes like a murderer with his knights|
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