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| WhiteRook48: 36 Rba3 doesn't look good |
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| Jul-19-09 |
| PhilomathBret: Immediately after 35...Kc6!!, Kasparov had one move that doesn't lose, and he missed it. Analysis with Deep Rybka 3: 36. Bxc7! bxc4 (36... Kxc7 37. Nb2=) 37. Rb7 Rxc7 38. Rxa6+ Rxa6 39. Qb5+ Kd6 40. Qxa6+ Ke7 41. Bxd5 Rxb7 42. Bxb7 Qb8. This entire sequence of moves is completely forced for both sides except for black's 36th move. 43.Kf2 and maybe there is a slight edge for white. |
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| Aug-18-09 |
| BISHOP TAL: (Tamar) They didnt hold um off at the Alamo, they got crushed, but still a good analigy. Instead of petrosian geting crushed kasparov lost.In the test of time Kas says 33b4 was bad and ka3 w/ a line that folows, that kas says is a win. |
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| Aug-18-09 |
| BISHOP TAL: Oops! That line is in the learn chess w/Garry kasparov here, it goes move 33, ka3 Bb6 nc2 ra8 35,nb4 Qd6 e4 fxe 37,Qxe4 ra7 Qxg6 BXd4+ 39,Kh1 n7b6 40 f5 |
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Aug-19-09
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| tamar: This shows me that Kasparov was still experiencing a big learning curve even in his 18th year. He had an arrogant persona, but was amazingly self-critical about his own play, probably an essential ingredient for a world champion. |
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Aug-19-09
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| Travis Bickle: Fischer beat the hell out of Petrosian and Petro squashed Kaspy like a bug. Hmm = Fischer is The greatest Player of all time!!! |
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Aug-19-09
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| HeMateMe: There is a Kasparov/Petrosian game from the early or mid 80s that Chess Life voted as one of the "Top Ten Games of the Year", for their magazine. In the game, Kasparov strangles Petrosian by surrounding his position, with almost no exchanges made. Finally, Petrosian is in a zugzwang and has to resign, as he will lose material or be mated in a move or two. Does anyone know which game this is? |
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| Aug-19-09 |
| slomarko: yup Kasparov vs Petrosian, 1982 |
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| Aug-19-09 |
| Lt.Surena: Fischer was an un-educated coward/quiter/racist and a fugitive from justice. Take your pick. |
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Aug-19-09
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| HeMateMe: That seems harsh. When you have a 4 figure I.Q., you don't need too much formal education. Most people agree he was mentally ill. You know, its funny--Fischer and Paul McCartney are the most famous westerners to do time in a Japanese jail, Fischer, because of his big mouth, and McCartney, because of his dumb wife (she packed the hootch in the suitcase, he took the rap). Maybe neither of them got much justice. McCartney faced 7 years of hard labor, the recommended sentence for bringing in a couple of bags of spleef, Fischer got a year of detention, no passport, both cases influenced by big government. McCartney was out in 10 days. the U.K. probably would have invaded, had Japan kept the Beatle. After WWII the British hung 200 Japanese officers as war criminals. A lot of hard feelings remained. I think the Japanese authorities were told by the USA to "keep Fischer on ice," let him feel the pain for past transgressions. Japan's probably a bad place to run afoul of the law. |
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Aug-19-09
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| Travis Bickle: <Lt.Surena: Fischer was an un-educated coward/quiter/racist and a fugitive from justice. Take your pick.> Yeah but he sure was a chess genius! ; P P.S. About Bobby being uneducated Lt. the word quiter (sic) has two t's in it. |
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Aug-19-09
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| Travis Bickle: <HeMateMe: ..You know, its funny--Fischer and Paul McCartney are the most famous westerners to do time in a Japanese jail, Fischer, because of his big mouth, and McCartney, because of his dumb wife (she packed the hootch in the suitcase, he took the rap).> What happened to Fischer's American right to Free Speech?? Also The U.S. illegally destroyed his passport after renewing it earlier. Of course with George W. who needs a Constitution or laws. |
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Aug-19-09
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| HeMateMe: A bit of grey area, I guess. American authorities could have impounded fischer much earlier, if they had wanted to. It seems that after going on the radio in Manilla and rejoicing over 9/11 somebody at a high pay grade decided enough was enough. I don't agree with how he was treated in Japan, but the USA could have easily sent him home and jailed him here. Maybe Henry Kissinger put in a good word. |
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| Aug-28-09 |
| BISHOP TAL: Bobby Fischer is an american chess legend.It would have been bad politics to lock him up in the states.Hows that song go by modonna stick and stones may break my bones but names may never hurt me, you can like me or not.somthin like that well you can like Bobby or not, he diddnt really hurt anybody. |
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| Sep-25-09 |
| AugustKamppur: Lt.Surena, Fischer's comments about jews are terrible and you are welcome to your opinion about him, but realise you come across as a very bitter person and to label his genius un-educated shows your own ignorance. |
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| Sep-25-09 |
| TheFocus: <Lt. Surena> Fischer was a high school drop-out but was certainly not uneducated. Do you speak a half a dozen languages? Fischer did and could reasonably comment on many different subjects: politics, religion, foreign cultures... with a studied insight. Certainly not the idiot many try to portray him as. Fischer was a lot smarter than he is given credit for. |
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Sep-25-09
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| Boomie: Please take this Fischer drivel to the Fischer page. Don't soil this fine game page with this crap. |
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Sep-25-09
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| twoinchgroup: Boomie this is a chess site and this discussion of Bobby has everything to do with chess. Its not as though this exchange of chess related lore and related opinions is happening on a PETA site or elsewhere. If so, then you would have had a leg to stand on but, since such is not the case then quit trying to come off as self-righteous and dictatorial. Your poor attempt at such self-indulgence might have worked in high school but not here. If you don't like it then go somewhere else. |
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Sep-25-09
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| Boomie: <twoinchgroup>
Since you have been a member here for only 4 days, I will be patient with you. Read the CG rules for posting. These Fischer posts have no relavence to this page. They don't belong here. There is a Fischer page where this kind of "discussion" goes on seemingly forever. |
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Sep-25-09
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| kamalakanta: <Travis Bickle: Fischer beat the hell out of Petrosian and Petro squashed Kaspy like a bug. Hmm = Fischer is The greatest Player of all time!!!> ...and Geller had a plus score against Fischer. That makes Geller the best player of all time! |
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Sep-25-09
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| HeMateMe: Terrific game. I played through it without looking to see who won, just assumed it was another Kasparov demoltion. Kept looking for the winning combo, black always looked like he had an answer. Finally I realized that Kasparov didnt have a winning line, it was a different Armenian winning this one. Seems a bit rare to sack a piece in that position without seeing a forced win. I wonder if it was an error, or if GK just felt that by driving the black king into the middle of the board, he would find the win somewhere down the road? |
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| Sep-25-09 |
| lostgalaxy: Wow! The black king lured his enemies towards him and then finally finished them up! Indeed I'd say Petrosian's the bravest player of all time! |
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| Sep-26-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: Petrosian's games are very enjoyable to play over. |
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Sep-26-09
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| HeMateMe: Not quite so charismatic, is he the Rodney Dangerfield of world champions ('I don't get no respect!)? |
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Oct-03-09
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| twoinchgroup: <Since you have been a member here for only 4 days, I will be patient with you. Read the CG rules for posting. These Fischer posts have no relavence to this page. They don't belong here. There is a Fischer page where this kind of "discussion" goes on seemingly forever.> Boomie,
CG rule for posting has been read and noted. However, my comment still stands . It's people like you that caused such an uptight rule to be established in the first place. Let it go and let people be. You're going to be "patient" with me? You egotistical so and so. I'd like to have you face to face with me and see whether or not you would attempt such condescension. I doubt it. |
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