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Garry Kasparov vs Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian
"The Bogus Indian" (game of the day Feb-10-2017)
Bugojno 3rd (1982), Bugojno BIH, rd 6, May-??
Bogo-Indian Defense: Nimzowitsch Variation (E11)  ·  1-0


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Oct-06-12  Tigranny: Why did Kasparov always have the white pieces against Petrosian and never played black when the two played? Just curious.
Jul-26-15  Chessman1504: An important game by "The Dark One." Kasparov, known for his brilliant attacks, also had remarkable patience. I regret my preconceived notions and stereotypes of his play. He was an all-around genius.
Mar-20-16  posoo: I HEREBY NOMMANATE dis game for game of da day. I suggest da pun "NUT PUNNISHER."
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  HeMateMe: Gary learned how to get a good grip on things.
Nov-14-16  gareeb: Euthanized in Bugojno ..!!
Feb-10-17  Crapablanca: Why not 24. . . .Qe8 25. Ng4 Qf8
Feb-10-17  Nerwal: <Why not 24. . . .Qe8 25. Ng4 Qf8>

26. ♘f6+ and 27. ♕e5.

Feb-10-17  TransfiniteCardinal: Just joined this <intimidatingly intelligent> site, I've been lurking here for years.
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  perfidious: <TransfiniteCardinal>, welcome aboard!
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  keypusher: I was just getting started in chess back when this was made quite an impression on me, because I hadn't seen Petrosian smothered like this, apart from Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971.

Really, I didn't understand the game at all, and I've lost quite a few times to strong positional players by getting my queenside paralyzed as Petrosian did here. Looks like there has been some good kibitzing on this page, I'll have to work through it.

Feb-10-17  MelvinDoucet: DWINS wrote: <"There is nothing else, since it is no longer possible to buy off the opponent with a pawn sacrifice: 20...f6 21.♘c4 ♗d7 22.♘xb6 axb6 23.♕xb6 ♗c6 24.♗b5! ♗xb5 25.♕xb5 with a straightforward win."

However, instead of an exclamation point, 24.♗b5 deserves a question mark. Black would respond with 24...♕b4! forcing White to grab a perpetual by 25.♖xc6 bxc6 26.♕xc6 ♖ac8 27.♕a6 ♖a8 28.♕c6 ♖ac8. All other continuations leave Black with an advantage.>

Someone beat me to it.. by 5 years! :) Kasparov was quick to give his own moves exclams, it seems, but in his defense ♕b4 is an easy move to miss especially when you're not running the game through an engine.

Feb-10-17  sachman19: why Bogus Indian?
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  morfishine: <sachman19: why Bogus Indian?> Because its another irrelevant game-title that serves only one purpose: leave people perplexed, shaking their heads

more accurate: Bogus game title


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  WorstPlayerEver: Pun is not nice to Bogoljubow, but hey... rats will be rats.
Mar-27-17  FredGambit: Quick note: In an otherwise fine book (Chess: The Art of Logical Thinking), GM Neil McDonald placed this game in a chapter called "Strategy Under The Microscope: 1 d4 d5"

Now, McDonald could blast me off the board in his sleep, but I'm pretty sure the Bogo-Indian isn't a 1 d4 d5 opening. But don't let that scare you off, it's quite a good book.

Mar-27-17  Nerwal: <Now, McDonald could blast me off the board in his sleep, but I'm pretty sure the Bogo-Indian isn't a 1 d4 d5 opening.>

There are many transpositions possible in the Catalan and Bogo-indian (like here 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. ♘f3 ♘f6 4. g3 ♗b4+ 5. ♗d2 ♗xd2+ 6. ♕xd2 0-0 7. ♗g2 ♕e7). The most important feature is that the pawn eventually stands at d5 and give later one of the typical Open Catalan structures (g3 fianchetto, black pawn at e6, c and d pawns exchanged).

Feb-17-18  tgyuid: put the donkey on e4, Sir
Feb-17-18  tgyuid: just put the donkey on e4, Sir
Feb-17-18  tgyuid: you should have put the donkey on e4, Sir
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  iking: <tgyuid: put the donkey on e4, Sir> ... the donkey wont help .. the rook on d8 is hanging after the queen exchange.
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  AylerKupp: I'm sorry, but I every time I see a Bogo-Indian with 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 Bb4+ 4.Bd2 I think about this game: L Palau vs S Kalabar, 1927.
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  Petrosianic: Kasparov's notes make no mention of it at all, but it looks like where Black starts to go wrong is with 12...Qe7. In such a wide open position, Black can't afford to lose even a single tempo.

Black needed to play something like an immediate Rd8, followed by Bd7 to mobilize the Queenside. It's important to play Rd8 with gain of time first, though, as if a White knight goes to e5, Black will probably want to play Be8 without shutting in his rook. After all that, the game is still relatively equal.

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  Petrosianic: Looking up, Bezlitosci also named Qe7 as Black's decisive mistake 6 years ago, but he didn't really explain why, or say what Black should have done instead. He only showed how White won after that move.
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  Big Pawn: Move 21, <Insignificant moves such as this demonstrate to the opponent just how helpless he is. - Kasparov>

A great comment!

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  Big Pawn: Kasparov sounded like Nimzowitsch in his many comments about preventative moves, or as Nimzo would say, prophylactic moves. I think Nimzowitsch would have liked 19.Bf1.
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