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|Jul-31-11|| ||Shams: <outplayer> 22.f6+ and g7 is crippled.|
|Aug-08-11|| ||Everett: With so much alleged collusion when the stakes are high, it is not easy to trust results. It is frustrating to read again and again how politics <possibly> have influenced results.|
Think I'll just stick with playing friends. It's only a game, after all.
|Aug-22-11|| ||DrMAL: <sneaky pete: After the game Timman asked Tal why (on move 10) he had exchanged the bishop at c3> Yes it was probably not as good as 10...Bd6 but Tal's next move 11...Ne7 was (much) worse. 11...Bd7 right away was much better but even 11...Na5 was better. After 16.f5 the knight moves back from g6 to e7, demonstrating further, but then the second knight maneuver c8-d6 lost even more tempo.|
Kasparov's 18.Rf4 turned out to be part of a nice attack because of Tal kept futzing around with his knight. 18.Rf3 with f6 on the way was actually significantly stronger. Funny thing is that on move 19, moving the knight yet again to e8 was easily the best and probably the only game saving move (19...Kh8 may have been also)!
|Apr-14-13|| ||vinidivici: Right away.
20.Nh5, its not so hard.
if 20...Qg5 21.h4 Qxh5 22.g4
|Apr-14-13|| ||al wazir: 20. Nh5 was obvious, but I couldn't predict where black would move the . After 20...Qd8 I would have played 21. Qg3. Black loses a immediately, then white doubles his s on the f-file, and I 'm sure it's a win.|
For example, 21...g6 22. fxg6 f5 23. Raf1 Rf8 24. g7 Rf7 25. Qg6 Qg5 (if 25...Qc8 or Ne4, then 26. Qxh6) 26. Qxd6 Qxh5 27. Qxd5 Kxg7 28. Bxf5 Bxf5 29. Rxf5 Rxf5 30. Rxf5.
|Apr-14-13|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: A little too easy for a Sunday, esp. since I flubbed both Friday and Saturday.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||Patriot: I would like to play 20.Nh5 but 20...Qg5 is a problem. But in that line I suppose 21.Qf3 holds everything together while threatening 22.Rg4. For example, 20.Nh5 Qg5 21.Qf3 f6 22.Rg4 Qxh5 23.Rxg7+ and 24.Qxh5. Also, 21...g6 22.fxg6 fxg6 23.Nf6+ . 20...Qe7 21.f6 Qe3 22.fxg7 Qxd3 23.Nf6+ Kxg7 24.Nxe7 looks interesting. 20...Qd8 21.Nxg7 Kxg7 22.f6+ Kh8 23.Qh5 looks winning for white.|
Well I'm too tired to look at this any more tonight.
|Apr-14-13|| ||Patriot: On my last line, I meant "23.Qh4 looks winning for white."|
|Apr-14-13|| ||Patriot: <vinidivici> Nice line! :-)|
|Apr-14-13|| ||M.Hassan: "Insane"
White to play 20.?
Exactly equal forces.
Not difficult to see:
<IMO, this is the highlight of the puzzle: if...Qxh5 22.g4 and Black Queen is trapped, hence, Black not likely to take h5>
<if....Kxg7 23.f6+ and Black Queen is gone>
Black has lost a Knight and a pawn and has become weaker. White's win is imminent now.
Time to check
|Apr-14-13|| ||HeMateMe: I got the first two moves,and the general idea.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||uldinch: often wednesdays seem more of a challenge than today's one. unless my last night's night-cap is to collect all the credit...|
|Apr-14-13|| ||morfishine: First Look: White has no checks & no captures so we are looking for a positional move|
I like <20.Nh5> Forcing the Black Queen to move and putting White's f-pawn in motion
*And thats as far as I got as I had: 20...Qg5 21.Nxg7 Qxg7 22.f6 Qh8 23.Qg3+ Kf8
24.Raf1 Re6 25.Rh4 Rae8 26.Qf4 Ne4 27.Rxh6 Qg8 28.Qh4 Rxf6 29.Rfxf6 Nxf6
30.Rh8 Re1+ 31.Kf2 Re4 32.Rxg8+ Nxg8 33.Qd8+ Kg7 34.Qxd7
PM: I have to be happy finding 20.Nh5 and the subsequent sac on g7; Trying to figure out what one GM is going to do is hard enough; but figuring out the moves for both Kasparov and Tal...thats just way too much! :)
|Apr-14-13|| ||peterjam: First 21 Qg3, Qg5 22 Rg4,Qe3+ lets black off the hook. After 20 -, Qg5 21 h4, its cute that the knight cannot be captured and 21 - ,Qd8 gives the game continuation with a difference as 22 Qg3 is then decisive.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||Marmot PFL: This is very bad opening play by black. He loses time and misplaces most of his pieces, especially the queen. 20 Nh5 Qd8 21 Nxg7 Kxg7 22 f6+ then 23 Qh4 and the game is already over.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||morfishine: <Patriot> Nice Post! You dissected this like a surgeon!|
|Apr-14-13|| ||Marmot PFL: <mistake?> Why? 7 Ne2 supports Nc3, avoids Bg4 pins and doesn't block the f-pawn.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||chrisowen: I having in general mind blip one 20.nh5 the neat rim shot at heads up in to g7 20...qg5 will trap,|
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|Apr-14-13|| ||whiteshark: easy pics|
|Apr-14-13|| ||devere: No one rated above 1800 could miss Nh5, so this "problem" is hardly even difficult, let alone "insane". As for Tal's 10...Bxc3 it's difficult to believe from a former world champion. Is it possible he did throw the game on purpose?|
|Apr-14-13|| ||agb2002: The material is identical.
White has four pieces and a pawn ready to attack the black castle. The first idea that comes to mind is 20.Nh5 to play f6 and to press g7 (20.Rg4 g5 21.h4 looks too slow):
A) 20... Qe7 21.Nxg7 wins an important pawn (21... Kxg7 22.f6+; 21... Qe3 22.Nxe8+).
B) 20... Qd8 21.Nxg7 Kxf6 22.f6+ Kh8 (22... Kf8 23.Qh4 wins) 23.Qh4 Re1+ 24.Rxe1 Qf8 25.Re5 followed by Rh5 wins.
C) 20... Qg5 21.h4
C.1) 21... Qxh5 22.g4 wins the queen.
C.2) 21... Qd8 22.Qg3 (22.Nxg7 has the problem that Qh4 is impossible) 22... g6(5) 23.fxg5 looks winning due to the threats Nf6+ and gxf7+.
C.3) 21... Qe7 22.Nxg7 as in A.
|Apr-14-13|| ||JustAnotherPatzer: <devere> if you click on 'about our puzzles' underneath the POTD it says: |
<The first move is not always the most difficult move to see. Sometimes, the initial move in the sequence is somewhat obvious, but the real solution to the position lies in the follow-up moves. In order to solve our puzzles, you must see enough moves to demonstrate that the initial move is correct. Simply guessing the first move, without understanding why it works, is not solving the puzzle.>
|Apr-14-13|| ||James D Flynn: Material is equal White has a backward pawnar c3 on a semi open file however he has atacjing prospects on the K-side with Nh5 nad f6,
20.Nh5 Qg5 21.h4 Qd8(not Qxh5 22.g4 wins the Q) 22.Nxg7 Kxg7 23.f6+ K h8(if Kf8 24.Qg3 and Black must play Qxf6 to avoid mate but after Rxf6 White’s material advantage of Q for N is overwhelmimng) 24,Rg4(threat Rg7 and Rh7+) Bxg5 25,Qf4 Re1+ 26.Rxe1 Qf8 27.Qxg4 Re8(if Ne4 28,Bxe4 dxe4 29.Rxe4 and White’s extra 2 pawns . dominance if the centre and Black’s perilous K position leaves White with a winning endgame.)28.Rxe8 Nxe8 29.Qf5 Qg8 30.g4 Nd6 31.Qf4 Qf8 32.g5 and White wins the Black h pawn for hxg5 hxg5 enables White to mate at h7.|
|Apr-14-13|| ||talsqueen: this wasnt insanely difficult? or am I getting better!|
|Apr-15-13|| ||stst: Try:
27.Qf7 Qg7 (may lead to perpetual),OR
28.Qxg7 Kxg7 and White got more pawns to win.
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