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|Apr-08-10|| ||JG27Pyth: My thought process: "jeez, Kasparov... this is gonna be a hard Thursday... everything that guy did goes flying over my head. Kasparov *gulp* well let's see *glances at puzzle* uh Rhg1 is a mate threat and... and... and... OH I KNEW IT THIS IS HARD I can't even find the Black defense that makes this a puzzle... *continues searching* Black has no defense nothing a meaningless rook sac to give check... what could I possibly be missing? I must be completely blind. I just don't see a way for Black to complicate this at all! But If the answer were just Rhg1 nobody would miss it. It's not a Thursday. I'm going to have to check the answer -- this is gonna hurt..."|
I guess Kasparov's blunder represents the supreme example of the chess maxim: "When you have a choice of which rook to use: use the other rook"
|Apr-08-10|| ||chesssantosh: oops am i greater than kasparov??i just found the move in a couple of seconds......i m feeling very good...after all he is my role model....|
|Apr-08-10|| ||A Karpov Fan: got it...sorry Mr Kasparov ;-)|
|Apr-08-10|| ||backyard pawn: I join my chessgames community in proclaiming success in scoring a full point for solving a Thursday puzzle. Admittedly easy for Thursday, but still Thursday!|
Rhg1 seals in the black king. The end is very near
|Apr-08-10|| ||randomsac: What a nasty king trap! Although, admittedly I wanted that pawn really badly and choose the text move.|
|Apr-08-10|| ||ounos: <Ultra: Finally I can say I played just like Kasparov.> lol!|
|Apr-08-10|| ||johnlspouge: Thursday (Medium)
Kasparov vs P Nikolic, 1994 (47.?)
White to play and win.
Material: Down a P. The Black Kf3 has 4 legal moves, but can be constricted. The White Kd3 is secured from check, except the pointless Rd7xd4+.
Candidates (47.): Rhg1
47.Rhg1 (threatening 48.Rbf1#)
There is no escape from mate.
|Apr-08-10|| ||johnlspouge: <Ultra: Finally I can say I played just like Kasparov.>|
Just the same way that I can say that I now look just like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
|Apr-08-10|| ||awfulhangover: 47.Rbf1?
White must be a weak player. No wonder he quit chess:-)This was the easiest this week,far more easy tan yesterday, when the not played Rg1 was much harder to see.
|Apr-08-10|| ||Patriot: It didn't take long to spot 47.Rhg1, weaving an unstoppable mating net. Then when I saw what was played and who played it, I was shocked! But they were probably in a time scramble, when making any move is more important than finding the best move--that's just my guess.|
|Apr-08-10|| ||Stoned Knight: too easy for a thursday|
|Apr-08-10|| ||Sashadrago: Haha... I saw Rg1 instantly, and then spent 5 minutes trying to disprove such an "easy" solution :) Was K. on a zeitnot? Cool thing that, as in yesterday's puzzle, the key move (the one I did NOT find yesterday! shaaaame on me...) was Rg1.|
|Apr-08-10|| ||YetAnotherAmateur: Rhg1 wins it easily, since black can't stop Rbf1#. So I guess I'm officially better than Kasparov!|
Actually, someone did put forward this idea for how a patzer like me could score 1 point in a simultaneous against Anand and Kasparov:
1. Give Anand white, and Kasparov black.
2. Wait for Anand to make his move.
3. Play Anand's move against Kasparov.
4. Wait for Kasparov's move.
5. Play Kasparov's move against Anand.
6. Continue like this until someone resigns or a draw is offered (at which point you offer a draw to the other player, and do what he does).
|Apr-08-10|| ||desiobu: Rhg1. Unbelievable that Kasparov missed this.|
|Apr-08-10|| ||desiobu: <YetAnotherAmateur> I saw a British program a while ago where an amateur gave a simul to a number of strong players, including GMs, using exactly that strategy and he managed to do well. I can't remember what it's called though.|
|Apr-08-10|| ||Skylark: Is it really so unbelievable? I have trouble believing his opponent allowed it. In any case not everyone needs to rag out on Kasparov, I'm pretty sure if he was given this in puzzle form he would spot it faster than it took you to formulate the word "unbelievable" in your head. This move was missed at the end of what was probably an exhausting game. Kasparov is human; besides he won anyways. Games get lost and/or drawn because of mistakes all the time, at least he missed this straightforward winning move and won anyways.|
|Apr-08-10|| ||wordfunph: 47.Rbf1 but i expected Nikolic's 47...Kg2 instead of Kg4.|
<desiobu: Rhg1. Unbelievable that Kasparov missed this.>
<desiobu> so what's your continuation after 47.Rhg1
|Apr-08-10|| ||mworld: so I see we got our Monday puzzle finally :)
|Apr-08-10|| ||desiobu: <Skylark> It wasn't meant to "rag on" Kasparov or to be boastful. It's unbelievable precisely because of how good Kasparov is.|
<wordfunph> Unless I'm missing something (and I haven't read through the thread yet) any move by black should be met by 48. Rbf1#.
|Apr-08-10|| ||chrisowen: Garry as Karpov might play seeks outposts for his knights in the middle, ages ain't required however. A scale on one to ten did Garry invisage his prey, drag on the king? His door, tardy Kxf3 allowing that Rg1. White misses it yet lances through the black side with the pawn soldiers crusading forwards.|
|Apr-08-10|| ||chk12: Am I missing sth or the game should have been actually drawn after:|
68. ... Kf4! 69. Kd6 Ke4 70. Kc7 Kd5! (to avoid checks after the eventual a8=Q - see Black's next move) 71. Kb6 Kd4 72. c6 (best try) bxc6 73. Kxa6 c5 74. Kb5 c4 etc.
(the same does not hold if Black decides to exchange Queens on move 61 due to: 61. ... Qxe2+? 62. Kxe2 Kg2 63. Ke3 Kg3 64. Ke4 Kg4 65. Ke5 Kg5 66. Kd6! Kf5 67. Kc7 Ke4 68. Kxb7 Kxd4 69. Kxc6 etc.)
|Apr-08-10|| ||snarky: <chk12>Last night when I looked at this I thought it might be a draw too. The only difference is I thought the draw was after 66 ...Ke5. |
If white follows with 67 d6, then black holds the white king at bay by stating on e6 and f6.
Likewise if white forces the pawn exchange, black again prevents entry by the white king by gaining and holding e6 and f6.
|Apr-08-10|| ||PinnedPiece: No use claiming that I got this, even though I did: Rhg1 looked winning to me....and I would have played it. The king is up against a series of blocks on the e-file (oh, don't mention that word!!! still need to do it).|
But, it is so unlikely that I would have a better move in any situation than Kasparov that its silly to proclaim it here. I DID look at RaF1 for awhile....but then saw the best move.
|Apr-08-10|| ||OBIT: I saw 47. Rhg1 quickly, cutting off the king's escape square to set up Rbf1. And, hmm, does Black have *any* defense to this? I had to go over every move by Black three times just to convince myself that this really is a quick forced mate -- seemed too easy. |
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OK, now that I have looked at the game continuation, I see the punch line: Kasparov missed 47. Rhg1. So here's a chance for all us scrubs to say we outplayed Kasparov, heh heh....
|Apr-08-10|| ||kevin86: Let's see:the former WC pulls off a 23 move combination-we are supposed to get that!|
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