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|Oct-01-15|| ||Phony Benoni: 25.Bxf5 seems the obvious start, and the question becomes the best follow-up after 25...exf5. I'm betting on 26.Rf6, nailing the king down and threatening 27.Qxh6#. Since 26...Rh8 27.Qg6# is not a sufficient defense, that seems to leave 26...Kh8 27.Rh6+ followed by a queen snaffle with material and positional edge.|
Of course Korchnoi finds a better defense, not as if Kasparov cares. He just makes it a double bishop sacrifice.
|Oct-01-15|| ||sotto voce meo: <notyetagm> Which World Champion is reputed to have said " Even a Pawn is worth a bit of trouble "|
|Oct-01-15|| ||al wazir: I didn't see the continuation after 25. Bxf5. I still don't. Where's the win after 25...Qe8 ?|
|Oct-01-15|| ||patfoley: After 25 ... Qe8, 26 Qh3 followed by the win of the e6 pawn or a reinvasion by Q and R.|
|Oct-01-15|| ||M.Hassan: White is a pawn down.
Black has 3 disconnected pawns and White has 5 superb pawns.
|Oct-01-15|| ||stst: see if
25.Bxf5 hits the chord, for after that Black has no good continuation....exf5 obviously leads to 26.Qg6+ etc
|Oct-01-15|| ||al wazir: <patfoley: After 25 ... Qe8, 26 Qh3 followed by the win of the e6 pawn or a reinvasion by Q and R.> Yes, that works. If 26...exf5, then black loses quickly: 27. Qxh6+ Kf7 28. Qf6#. 26. Kf7 probably is black's best try, but that loses slowly|
|Oct-01-15|| ||agb2002: White is one pawn down.
The rook on d6 x-rays the pawn on h6. Hence, 25.Bxf5:
A) 25... exf5 26.Rg6+
A.1) 26... Kf7 27.Rf6+ Kg7 28.Qxh6#.
A.2) 26... Kf8 27.Rf6+ Qxf6 (27... Kg7 28.Qxh6#) 28.exf6 + - [Q vs R+B] and the threat Qxh6+ (28... Rh8 29.Qg6).
A.3) 26... Kh7 27.Qxh6#.
A.4) 26... Kh8 27.Rxh6+ Kg7 28.Rh7+ Kf8 29.Rxe7 Kxe7 30.Qh7+ Kf8 31.Rd1
A.4.a) 31... Be6 32.Qxb7 + - [Q+2P vs R+B].
A.4.b) 31... Rg7 32.Qh8+ Kf7 (32... Rg8 33.Qf6+ Ke8 34.Rd8#) 33.Rd8 Kg6 34.Rf8 wins (34... Rf7 35.Rg8+ Rg7 36.Rxg7#).
B) 25... Qf7 26.Qxf7+ Kxf7 27.Bxe6+ Bxe6 (else 28.Bxg8) 28.Rxb7+ recovers the bishop and ends up two pawns ahead at least.
C) 25... Qe8 26.Qh3
C.1) 26... exf5 27.Qxh6+ (or 27.Qf6+ Kh7 28.Qxh6#) 27... Kf7 28.Qf6#.
C.2) 26... Kf7 27.Bxe6+ Bxe6 28.Rxb7+ recovers the bishop with a crushing attack.
D) 25... Rh8 26.Qg6+ Kf8 27.Rbd1 with the threat Rd8+ wins.
E) 25... Rf8 26.Qg6+ Kh8 27.Qxh6+ Kg8 28.Bxe6+ Bxe6 29.Rxe6 wins.
F) 25... Re8 26.Qg6+ Kf8 27.Qxh6+ Qg7 28.Qh5 ends up a pawn ahead with attack. For example, 28... exf5 29.Rf6+ Ke7 (29... Kg8 30.Rg6) 30.Rh6 Qg8 31.Rh7+ Ke6 (31... Kd8 32.Qh4+ mates in two; 31... Kf8 32.Qh6+ mates next) 32.Rd1 and the double threat Rd6# and Qh6+ wins.
|Oct-01-15|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: <al wazir>: White is down 1 pawn. So if Black gets out of trouble at the cost of 2 pawns, that's still a good outcome for White.|
Anyhow, as usual I overcomplicated some lines, but I found the right move(s) for approximately the right reasons. :)
|Oct-01-15|| ||morfishine: Its funny, the pawn grabber gives back all the pawns, then loses the game, how humiliating|
|Oct-01-15|| ||wooden nickel: The follow-up 26.Qg4+ also wins but isn't far as good as the text move 26.Qxf7+...
26.Qg4+ Kh8 27.Bxe6 Bxe6 28.Qxe6 Qxe6 29.Rxe6
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|Oct-01-15|| ||patzer2: Picked the obvious 25. Bxf5! for my Friday solution, calculating an accurate enough win after 25...exf5 26. Qg6+ .|
However, I didn't anticipate Black's 25...Qf7 with White's clear 26. Qxf7+ Kxf7 27. Bxe6+! refutation.
As an improvement for Black, I'd pass on repeating the rarely played (was it a novelty?) 7...Bb5 = and instead go for sharp, popular move 7...g5 = as in Grischuk vs Karjakin, 2015 where there's a link to an excellent video analysis of this line and that game by GM Jan Gustafsson.
|Oct-01-15|| ||saturn2: 25 Bxf5: I calculated not all the lines but came to the conclusion that after accepting black has to give the queen for the rock or after non accepting white is at least a pawn up by better position because of 26 Qg4+|
|Oct-01-15|| ||saturn2: <patzer2: for my Friday solution> not yet|
|Oct-01-15|| ||kevin86: Korchnoi looked about three tempi behind all game.|
|Oct-01-15|| ||rozzatu: <sotto voce meo> your first kibitz! congrats!|
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|Oct-01-15|| ||Lighthorse: I'm having a good week. 4 for 4. Crossing my fingers for tomorrow.|
|Oct-01-15|| ||Howard: In response to an above inquiry, it was Steinitz who said that "a pawn is worth a little trouble."|
Incidentally, Kasparov only scored 50% in this tournament, but he was probably still tired from his WC match against Anand.
|Oct-01-15|| ||patzer2: <saturn2> Thanks! This week has been flying by for me, but I certainlty didn't need to jump a day ahead.|
|Oct-01-15|| ||jith1207: The previous night I was looking at Kasparov page's kibitzes and one poster had mentioned that this tournament was the worst performance by him while he was world chess champion.|
He had only one win, but boy, that was POTD material. It is such a coincidence that one match from the tournament, which I was looking at in random came as POTD the next day. But luckily I did not see this game and am glad I was able to solve the puzzle as well.
|Oct-01-15|| ||stacase: 25 Bxf5 clearly wins a Pawn. I wouldn't say it played itself after that, but it was fairly easy.|
Well I'm afew time zones east, let's see if I can remember to tune in around the cocktail hour this afternoon.
|Oct-01-15|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: White is a pawn down, but dominates the board with rooks and bishop vastly superior to their black counterparts. White can grab a pawn back with a winning position:|
25.Bxf5! threatening Qg6+ cleaning up.
A. 25... exf5 26.Qxh6+ Kf7 27.Rf6+ Ke8 28.Qh5+ Kd8 (Kd7 29.Rf7) 29.Rd1+ Bd7 30.Rf7 Qe8 31.R1xd7+ Qxd7 32.Rxd7+ Kxd7 33.Qh7+ wins both rooks.
B. 25... Qf7 26.Qg4+! Kh8 (Kf8 27.Rd8+ wins) 27.Bxe6 Bxe6 (Rxg4 28.Bxf7) 28.Rxe6 and white will go two pawns up with the more active rooks.
C. 25... Qe8 26.Qg4+! Kf7 (Kh8 27.Qh3 exf5 28.Qxh6#) 27.Qh4! exf5 28.Rf6+ Ke7 (Kg7 29.Qxh6#) 29.Rd1! leaves no good defense to a deadly discovered check.
Time for review...
|Oct-01-15|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: Like others, missed the pretty 27.Bxe6+ finale.|
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