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Tal Shaked vs Garry Kasparov
"...and Stirred" (game of the day Jun-05-2011)
Tilburg Fontys (1997), Tilburg NED, rd 3, Sep-29
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  0-1


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Aug-24-06  Runemaster: <'I used a nuke to kill a bug.'>

Or as one of our favourite kibitzers said "I used a nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...".

Aug-24-06  chessarmenia: by not castling, i assume that tal wanted to push his kingside pawns in an attack on garry's fianchettoed kingside, but after he played h4 he just plays passive moves and lets kasparov get even more space, especially with his white queenside exposed like that
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  plang: 11 Bd3, covering the e pawn, has been played more often and seems more logical. Shaked felt that if he had played 16 Rb2 the game would have been close to equal. 19 Bb1 seems a little odd since the bishop is blocked by his own pawns and doesn't seem worth spending a tempo on to prevent its exchange. <Eatman: Anyone remember exactly the rather mean comment Kasparov made after this game?> "I prepared the idea of 12..Nd7 and 13..Rd8 for Karpov but decided not to use it against him in Las Palmas last year because Karpov might have varied earlier with 3 g3. I had a big discussion with my seconds over lunch about whether to play my new plan against Shaked. I would have preferred to see another player's face acroos the board after 13..Rd8 - not necessarily Karpov but any strong player. It was like using an atom bomb to shoot birds".
Jan-29-08  jovack: I felt that coming, I would've traded down something if I were in shaked's place.

And why are people in an uproar against kasparov. He destroyed shaked, and he has the right to act as he wants since he can back up his mouth.

Jan-29-08  Bobsterman3000: 15. h4 ??!!

Just a little too provocative when you're king's not safe and you're giving up 300 rating points...

Jan-29-08  cade: I think the real loser move in this game is 18.d5. The Black Knight is given freedom to infiltrate and it swiftly wins the game.
Jan-29-08  dx9293: <jovack> Kasparov's mean-spirited comments (and he made them often during his career) are precisely why I have never liked him, despite his being the greatest chessplayer ever. He doesn't seem like a very nice person.
Jan-29-08  Bobsterman3000: <dx9293> Clearly, Kasparov's fighting spirit translated into some less-than-pleasant manners away from the board. With him there was a clear correlation.

I wouldn't change Kasparov for anything, because better manners might have meant less exciting chess. However, even though Kasparov is my favorite player, I do wish someone who have slugged him one time like Pal Benko did to Fischer...

Jan-29-08  Shams: <I do wish someone who have slugged him one time like Pal Benko did to Fischer...>

someone like...Seirawan, perhaps? I wonder if he regrets his restraint.

Jan-30-08  Bobsterman3000: <shams> Exactly. Kasparov is my favorite player, and I love the fact that he was a bit "feisty," to say the least. However, I was always the first to applaud when someone put him in his place....

Jan-30-08  Riverbeast: Very nervous play by Shaked, it looks like he was waiting to get beat...Players that are much weaker than him know better than to move the same pieces repeatedly in the opening, and not castling...
Jan-30-08  MichAdams:
Feb-22-09  WhiteRook48: Shaked got Shaken
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  Jim Bartle: Eatman: "Anyone remember exactly the rather mean comment Kasparov made after this game?"

Apparently 13...Rd8 was some brilliant novelty, and Kasparov was upset he'd used it to defeat such a "weak" player as Shaked. He said something along the lines of "using a secret nuclear bomb to squash a gnat."

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  hedgeh0g: Koste-nuke to kill a bug? Anyone?
Jun-24-10  Don Cossacks: GM Shaked blundered his queen.
Jun-24-10  Catfriend: <Don Cossacks> I happen to have a collection of trapped queens, including quite a few world-champs and elite players. No need to shout (in capital letters: "Overrated!!!").
Feb-07-11  shach matov: Apparently white confused his first name with his last name and decided that it was a good plan to play h4 while his king was in the middle...and against GK. Not a good idea even for the real Tal.
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  FSR: No doubt Tal shaked when he had sat down to play the World Champion. (Yeah, yeah, shook, I know.) He completely fell apart.
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  Phony Benoni: Shaked, Rattled, and Rolled.
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  hedgeh0g: In the spirit of Tal, White sacrifices his queen.
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  piltdown man: Awesome.
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  lost in space: After 20. Qd1 (instead of Qf4??) 20...Na3 21. Bc2 Ba6 22. 0-0 Nxc2 White is not completely lost, even though there is a significant advantage black.
Jun-05-11  ossipossi: I didn't know chessplayers had to be nice persons... They are usually awful! <:)>
Jun-05-11  Ratt Boy: Deep Blue never said one mean thing about anybody. Butt I was still rooting for Kasparov against it.

I firmly believe that Bobby, in his prime, would never have lost to Blue.

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