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Emil Joseph Diemer vs Burger / Bartsch
Ried (1948)
Blackmar-Diemer Gambit: Ryder Gambit (D00)  ·  1-0


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Oct-06-08  mworld: the game itself was really good!
Oct-06-08  Drudge: I did:

18. Bxe7 Kxe7
19. Qd6+ Ke8
20. Qd8#

-- any flaw? ...besides being 1 move slower ;0(....

Oct-06-08  MiCrooks: Sad thing is Diemer was lacking in compensation pretty much the whole game!! Even here, if the B's had found 16. Ne3! instead of the suicidal Qxh3 they would have STILL been winning.

I guess the concept of giving back the piece when up an additional 3 or 4 pawns hadn't quite caught on yet :)!

Diemer could have still played on with Qe1, but the mating attacks would have been avoided and after something like Qxh3 Qxe4 Nd7 it would be up to Diemer to try to break through before the extra FOUR pawns were brought to bear.

Oct-06-08  MiCrooks: Interestingly, Black can pretty much force a draw on move 7 by Bg4 when the best White has is Qxb7 with the continuation Qxe3+ Rd2 Qe1+ perpetual.

Avoiding this explains Black's c6 and White's h3. I think Diemer could just count on his opponents not bailing into early draws, even with Black, because they figured they should be able to bust his unsound gambit :)!

Oct-06-08  benveniste: <Drudge> and <benjinathan>, Bxe7 also wins, but black can prolong the agony a bit.

18. Bxe7 f6
19. Qd6 Kf7
20. Bxf6 gxf6
21. Qc7+ Kg6
22. Rg1+ Kh6
23. Qg7+ Kh5
24. Be2+ Qg4
25. Rh1#

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  PhilFeeley: How many microseconds did it take everyone to solve this one?
Oct-06-08  MiCrooks: As many as it took to transmit the postition to my brain :)

About as easy as they come...

Oct-06-08  WarmasterKron: Queen sac, mate in two - must be Monday.
Oct-06-08  BadKnight: its the easiest puzzle i have seen in recent times
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  DarthStapler: Got it easily
Oct-06-08  stacase: tatarch said, "The bishop-rook mating combo is always a crowd pleaser."

Your comment made me smile.

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  gawain: Instant gratification! A pretty mate, though.

Interesting to see how the eponymous Diemer plays his gambit--and also interesting to hear what other puzzle solvers say about their experiences playing the opening. Thanks all.

Oct-06-08  soberknight: that was easy.

stinks for black to lose that game. he was doing so well.

Oct-06-08  Ladolcevita: whiteshark: <LaDouce> You are asking me to explain my poor jokes? By no means!

My english is poor,so i cant understand your joke,can you please be kind and explain it for me?

BTW,how to make the colour different?

May-01-10  screwdriver: Nice checkmate! Seems like that bishop/rook combo is the deadly end to many a game.
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  al wazir: There's nothing "insane" about this. It's dead easy.

I think this is a Monday puzzle with delusions of grandeur.

Apr-24-16  mel gibson: Surely a Monday puzzle?
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  Penguincw: Wow, that was an easy Sunday puzzle.

The last time a Sunday puzzle was this easy was Jun/07/2015.


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S Kustar vs A Kranz, 1999

Or maybe it's actually Monday. NOOOOOOOOOO!

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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: The only time I've ever gotten a Sunday puzzle right. Too bad that's because cg accidentally put in a Monday puzzle by mistake.
Apr-24-16  M.Hassan: White to play 18.?
White is 4 pawns down and Black is not fully developed. 18.Qd8+ Bxd5(forced)
More like a Monday puzzle
Apr-24-16  Caissas Clown: Well , I got the mate in three - but missed the mate in two ! After finding the 3-move mate , I looked no further . I'm guessing I *WOULD* have got the 2-move mate,*if* this had been labelled correctly as a Monday puzzle. Still , there is a useful lesson here : ignore the day/purported difficulty level and assess a position on its merits. Give me ten years and I might finally learn this lesson :-).
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  diagonalley: i rely on CG to help me work out which day of the week it is :-(
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  zanzibar: <diagonalley> that's pretty funny...
Apr-24-16  Doniez: Damn! Too good to be true! I got it in a few second but it was just an illusion. Anyway, I found the first moves of the right Sunday puzzle.
Apr-24-16  Caissas Clown: Oops - there is no mate in three , as after 18.Bxe7 , black is not forced to recapture , but can play 18..f6. That move gets a ! in refuting a limited-moves mating puzzle , but for a real game , we could do with a symbol for "meh - so what?"
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