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Raymond Keene vs William Hartston
Tournament (1968), Southend
King's Indian Attack: Symmetrical Defense (A05)  ·  1-0
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Sep-30-08  jerseybob: Great game by Keene, but not sure I like black's play in moves 8-10. Is trading that bishop really worth all the effort? And afterward black's game just seems so sterile.
Mar-24-09
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  ray keene: hartston seemed attracted by this bishop trade-see one of my other wins against him here on chessgames.com where he carried out a highly similar manoeuvre
Aug-14-11  ToTheDeath: Keene gives 18...Bf8 19.h4. I don't understand the point of this move. Maybe he means 19.a4? Good game.
Aug-14-11  DrMAL: <ToTheDeath> Yes, Keene was much more of politician than some chess great. First, 18.a4 is basically as good as 18.a3 with slight advantage to white, the line he gives is weak. Second, the best here is probably 18.Nc4 but it's difficult to determine since all three are fine (and not worth annotating on anyway).
Aug-14-11
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  ray keene: it shd read 18...Bf8 19 b4! i think the transcriber mistook my b for an h.
Aug-14-11  ToTheDeath: Cheers Ray. That makes sense.
Aug-15-11  DrMAL: Yes, I figured the line after 18.a3 was 18...Bf8 19.b5 c5 point being that this was better than 18...c5?! played, not a justification for it. Also, after 18.a4 black must similarly play 18...b5 (not 18...c5 either). After this, 19.axb5 cxb5 20.Qxc8 and either way black takes, white takes back then goes up a pawn. 18.a4 was about as good as 18.a3 it did not deserve a question mark. 18.Nc4 was probably best anyway, after this 18...Qc7 or 18...Qb8 or even 18...Re6 and 19.a4 is coming with the knight strongly posted on c4 for a sizable advantage. In any event, it was a nice game, thanx to GM Keene for sharing it, cheers.
Aug-15-11  DrMAL: Oops, I meant to write 19.b4 instead of 19.b5 above, sometimes I have difficulty transcribing my own lines! LOL.

In any event, my apology for any rudeness it's just that 18.a4 did not deserve a question mark (this was just plain wrong) and also that the move 18.a3 was not justified by 18...c5?! a clear mistake. Finally, yes, 18.a3 was a good move but 18.a4 was also and 18.Nc4 (never mentioned) was probably best.

Aug-15-11
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  ray keene: in such positions you have to be careful of winning a pawn but then ending up with all the pawns on the same side of the board-with a hard to win endgame-or winning the exchange but allowing counterplay-my intention was to strangle the life out of the black position hence 18a3 which i wd still play.
Aug-15-11  DrMAL: Yes, Ray, I agree with that. The endgame after all the exchanges with 18.a4 is not very promising even with the extra pawn. But with 18.a4 it still is not "equalized" nor a bad move. Like I wrote, 18.a3 was a good move one of the two best, with 18.a4 also a good (lesser) alternative. I still think 18.Nc4 was probably even better but both this and 18.a3 are "best" to accomplish what you point out and I for one appreciate your honest reply, thanx, cheers.
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