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Raymond Keene vs Richard G Eales
"Disgrunfeld" (game of the day Jun-13-04)
Ch England 1971  ·  Gruenfeld Defense: General (D80)  ·  1-0


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Jun-13-04   catfriend: <MatrixManNe0> 21..Q:Be2 or 21..Bc6
Jun-13-04   MatrixManNe0: No, for in 21... Qxe2, white cooly plays 22. Rxd7, and white is clearly the better.

21... Bc6, and white doesn't have to move the rook, for if 22... Bxb7, white takes the e8-rook with check, queening. During the 22nd move here, white simply moves the bishop out of harm's way.

Jun-13-04   Bad Star: <MatrixManNe0> 20. Qd8 Bd7 21. Rxb7 Bc6 22. Rxb8 works too, right?
Jun-13-04   Woodpusher: Whenever I play against the Grunfeld it usually works out a lot like this game. I give up a pawn or two on the queenside and either I mate the guy or I lose the ending.
Jun-13-04
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  ray keene: i am baffled by some of the above analysis-after 26...qf8 27qa2-well done feenian you are right- 27..rad8?? simply 28bxe6+ wins outright.

ray keene

Jun-13-04   Andrew Chapman: I thought Black should have played Be6 earlier, perhaps at move 20 or 21 or 22. If the White rook takes on g7, then Black has Qd5 as a possiblity.

It's great to hear from Ray Keene. I am sure we would all appreciate more comments on the game from you, Ray. Is Black lost after 12.Qxc3?

Jun-13-04
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  ray keene: no black can defend until quite late but not the way people have been suggesting.i hope to contribute deep notes to this game in the near future.
Jun-13-04
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  kevin86: When blacked attacked,it was with a lone queen-and it failed. When white attacked,it was with a rook on the 7th,a queen,and two powerful bishops-and it was successful-any questions?
Jun-13-04   King99: I cant find the world championship match with spassky v.s. fisher fisher was black
Jun-13-04   MatrixManNe0: <Bad Star> Yes, that works just as well, however with that move, black could counterattack by taking the bishop with the queen... White's position is not as pretty.

As I suggested, moving the bishop would probably be best.

Jun-13-04   morphynoman2: Thanks, master Keene. It seems that thanks to our poor analysis, GMs are finally interested in this site.
Jun-14-04
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  chessgames.com: King99 please read ChessGames.com Help for help on how to use the search form on the homepage.
Jun-14-04   Bad Star: <MatrixManNe0> What counterattack? Simply Qxe2 Rxa8, no?
Jun-14-04   Bad Star: <MatrixManNe0> The exchange of rooks followed by Qxe2 probably holds. Actually after looking at the position some more I'm starting to doubt 20. Qd8. Maybe Crafty could check it out?
Jun-14-04   MatrixManNe0: Yes, yes, alright. I wasn't paying attention... That works.
Jun-17-04   Shadow 812: A colourful game to look at, White does
get a lot a activity for the sacrified pawn on c3 which appears to offer adequate compensation: RDK says that Black is not lost after Qxc3 and that the mistake came at the end: I have to agree with this, Black's 26th move Qxc5?? was probably one of those moves was made in serious time trouble: The suggestion from weirdoid 26 Bxc4!?is well worth looking at, for example: 26. Rd7 Bxc4
27. Rxe7 Rxe7
28. Bxf6 (instead of Rxf6)
28. Re6
29. Rc1 b5
30. Bb2 Rd8
This line may not be conclusive, but Black has avoided a quick knockout and is still in the game and demonstrates that sometimes the best way to fend off an attack is to give back some extra material:
Jun-24-04
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  ray keene: notes have now been sent off to admin at chess games
Jun-25-04
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  Honza Cervenka: Interesting play could have followed after 25...Kh8, which looks quite reasonably at first glance. But white can play 26.Rd6 Ne5 (26...Rf8 27.Re1 Ne5 28.Rxf6! ) 27.Ba2 Bf5 (27...Rf8 28.Re1 Qg7 29.Rxe5 fxe5 30.f4 and 31.Bxe5 ) 28.f4 Nd7 (28...Ng4 29.h3 Rad8 30.Rxd8 Rxd8 31.Qb2 Kg7 32.hxg4) 29.Bb1 Be6 (29...Bxb1 30.Rxd7) 30.Re1 etc.

If 25...Kg7, then 26.Rh5!! Kf8 [Of course not 26...gxh5 27.Qg5+ with mate; 26...Kh8 27.Qh6 Rf8 (27...Qg7 28.Bxf6 with mate in next move) 28.Qxg6 Qg7 29.Qe4 ] 27.Qf4 Bf5 (27...gxh5 28.Bxf6 ) 28.Rxf5 gxf5 29.Qxf5 Qg7 (what else?) 30.Bxf6 Qg6 31.Qf3 with decisive attack.

Mar-09-05   PaulKeres: < ray keene >, don't know if this is really you or not, but is this Richard Eales the same on which wrote the book for Batsford on the history of chess?
Mar-09-05   PaulKeres: The book he wrote, I believe, is...
<Chess: the history of a game, Hardinge Simpole, 2002 (replaces earlier edition, Batsford, 1985).>
Mar-09-05   PaulKeres: <chessgames.com> or anyone else as well. Perhaps you can answer my question? Is this Richard Eales the same on which wrote the book for Batsford on the history of chess? <Chess: the history of a game, Hardinge Simpole, 2002 (replaces earlier edition, Batsford, 1985).> ?
Mar-09-05
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  ray keene: <PK> yes you are right on all counts
Mar-09-05   PaulKeres: thank you Ray for clearing this up for me
Apr-12-09   ROO.BOOKAROO: Ray Keene gives his clear analysis of this game in his London Times column of April 13, 2009, focusing on the attacking potential of an Isolated Queens' Pawn ("IQP") here "smashing it's (sic) way into the enemy camp". It's hard to believe (and perhaps a sign of the times) that an educated man like Raymond Keene writes "it's way" for the possessive "its way" still taught as such at Cambridge University and other language grandmasters.
Apr-12-09
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  ray keene: i dictated the article . it never occurred to me that i wd have to check to ensure that this well known grammatical point had been rendered correctly ! i am, though, sorry to say that so many people now commit the error of adding an apostrophe to the genitive of "its" that it may be time to stop worrying about it.
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