|Dec-02-04|| ||Jafar219: nice game by super Paul |
|Dec-02-04|| ||drukenknight: yeah, but did black forget RxN? |
|Dec-02-04|| ||samvega: 33..Rxc3 34.Rxd8+ Qxd8 35.Qxc3 Qf7 (i guess) 36.Bb2 Qh7 37.Qf6 and white is still winning? |
|Dec-02-04|| ||drukenknight: are you asking me or telling me? 35... Qf8 seems better in our line. |
|Dec-02-04|| ||samvega: <asking or telling?> suggesting|
the bishop-queen battery would threaten mate at g7 or h8, that's why I suggested 35.Qf7 in that line.
It looks like black is lost in any case, but he may have dismissed (rather than overlooked) Rxc3 b/c he wanted to keep the bishop off b2.
|Dec-02-04|| ||drukenknight: it's not lost the last time I ran it through the crap computer, unless Qf8 allows a mate or something (i.e. unless I wrote down the wrong 35th move, the line seems okay). Try running it through; it seems to hold, no? |
|Dec-02-04|| ||samvega: ok i see what you mean.
33..Rxc3 34.Rxd8+ Qxd8 35.Qxc3 Qf8 36.Bb2 Kh7 and there's no mate threat, no immediate promotion threat, and no invasion at f6. So looks like you were right.
|Dec-02-04|| ||drukenknight: where did you get your avatar? |
|Dec-02-04|| ||samvega: from the selection provided by chessgames. I used to have a Kali or Krishna avatar, but apparently that wis not politically correct, so I was asked to change. I kind of like my new incarnation. |
|Dec-02-04|| ||beatgiant: <drukenknight>, <samvega>:
33...xc3 allows mate: 34. h7+ h8 35. xc3+ g7 36. xg7#, or 34...f8 35. h8()#. |
|Dec-02-04|| ||drukenknight: yes I really should have looked at that part, the crap computer seemed to be telling me something but I wasnt listening. Black seems to have some sort of positional problem why did he capture with the pawn 25...gxf5 anyhow? |
|Dec-04-04|| ||beatgiant: <why did he capture with the pawn 25...gxf5 anyhow?>|
Probably he wanted to control the e4 square, fearing something like 25...xf5 26. e8+ f8 27. e4 . He can also try 25...xb3 , but this leaves him open to fxg6 or f6 with a strong-looking attack, although the result isn't clear at a glance to me.
|Dec-05-04|| ||GKing: <why did he capture with the pawn 25...gxf5 anyhow?>|
<25...gxf5 seems to be a better choice than 25...f5>
If we try : 25...gxf5 26e8+ f8 27 e4 then 27...e6! and the black still can resist.
It seems that the stronger choice against 25...gxf5 was 26 e8+ f8 27g4! and white maintain black under heavy pressure.
|Dec-05-04|| ||drukenknight: how do you feel about 25...Nxg5? do you think this can hold? |
|Dec-05-04|| ||GKing: <No>
I think 25...xg5 should be a choise that makes white´s job harder than 25...gxf5. I don´t believed black can scape after 22...d8? (lost of time)