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| Jul-29-04 | | Knight13: I don't like Ficher trade with 2 pieces for a rook in this game. It's not good for him. He lost. Good game. |
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| Feb-20-05 | | Sasquatch: My guess is that 25... rh5 surprised White. Not too often do we see a rook controlling an open rank, rather than file, and that, in a manner of speaking, is how black's win comes about. This is not by any means a well opened game by white, (how often does one find Fischer struggling with poorly coordinated pieces?), but Keres' full use of the board is what impresses me here. |
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| Feb-20-05 | | aw1988: <Knight13> Right:
1) He traded
2) He shouldn't have
3) He lost |
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Feb-20-05
 | | tpstar: <aw1988> Your posts are getting funnier all the time. Who writes your material?! :>D |
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| Feb-20-05 | | Saruman: What would happen if we passed <Knight13>'s comments to Fischer?! |
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| Nov-21-05 | | bishopawn: <Saruman>, Bobby might agree. The trade fizzled Fisher's attack, and energized Keres'. Is this way of facing the Caro-Kann unique to Fischer? |
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| Apr-14-06 | | IMDONE4: Fischer interestingly enough played close to the same line against Keres two times in the same tournement, losing both times. In this game, we see Keres in the seat Fischer is used to, being down material but having a strong attack and intiative to compensate for it. |
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| Nov-10-06 | | Sularus: that d4 black pawn is a bully eh. |
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Apr-23-07
 | | outplayer: What happens if white plays 30.Rh1? |
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Apr-23-07
 | | WannaBe: 30...Nxg3 |
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Apr-23-07
| | WannaBe: Bobby would be somewhere around 16 years of age... Wonder if he cried after this game... I heard he was known to do that after a loss in his earlier years... |
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Apr-23-07
| | outplayer: Lol thanks :-) |
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Jun-22-08
 | | Some call me Tim: Fischer stuck to this variation despite its cramped positions and lack of real attacking possibilities. Keres, Smyslov and Petrosian picked up on it and scored well against him in these games. At Bled 1961 Fischer opted for 6. d4 which opens the position a bit more. The game ended in a draw. Fischer vs Keres, 1961 In 1968 Fischer went back to 6. d3 but opted for 7. a3 to prevent ...Bb4, and won against a non-
GM. Fischer vs S Kagan, 1968 Of course he used other variations against the Caro-Kann including his famous win against Petrosian in 1970 with the Exchange Fischer vs Petrosian, 1970 But that was after he had learned some hard lessons in the art of preparing for his strongest competitors. |
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| Jun-22-08 | | Atking: Yes in 1959 clearly Fischer was still a bit too young to face some players like Keres, Tal or Petrossian Few years later he could challenge them. Once I tried 10.c3 with on 10...Bc5 11.Bc1~12.Nd2. It could be an improvement over 10.b3. |
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| Jun-23-08 | | Petrosianic: <Bobby would be somewhere around 16 years of age... Wonder if he cried after this game... I heard he was known to do that after a loss in his earlier years...> I haven't heard of Fischer crying after a loss. But there are several stories of Spassky doing that, particularly after the "Biggie", the most crushing defeat of his early career, and the one that he called his Most Difficult Game for years afterwards (maybe still does): Spassky vs Tal, 1958
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| Jun-23-08 | | RookFile: Well, I would cry. This was an absolute positional crush by Keres. |
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Jun-23-08
 | | maxi: <Petrosianic> That Spassky-Tal game is really something, from all points of view. |
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Aug-29-08
 | | GrahamClayton: You know when you have a bad position when 15. Ra2 is the best move. 15. e5 Nd5 16 c4 might have been worth a shot. |
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Sep-02-08
| | GrahamClayton: Source: Andy Soltis "Chess Lists", 2nd edition, McFarland Publishing, 2002 |
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May-27-09
 | | Eyal: The way Fischer self-destructs here with the pawn-pushing on the K-side is reminiscent of Fischer vs D Keller, 1959 earlier that year, only in that game Fischer did it while trying impatiently to force a win in an equal position, whereas here his position is already inferior and he seems to be in a desperate need to do something "active". Keres was a consistent 1...e5 player, so his employment of the Caro-Kann indicates that he was virtually certain Fischer would repeat the rather dubious line that he already played against Petrosian and Smyslov in earlier rounds, and that got him into trouble against the former. As <Atking> mentioned, <10.c3> might be an improvement over b3: <It is quite surprising that not once [out of 3 games in this tournament] did he try the centrally oriented 10.c3, and if then 10...Bc5 11.Bc1! and White stands very well: Black's outpost on d4 is shaky and Black's queen and bishop are awkwardly placed; if Black tries the interesting 10...Ba3!? White gets excellent compensation for a pawn after 11.Nxa3 Qxb2 12.Rb1 Qxa3 13.cxd4 Qxa2 14.Qd1!> (Mednis, "How to Beat Bobby Fischer") |
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May-27-09
 | | parisattack: It didn't take Fischer too long to figure the Two Knights didn't buy much against the C-K. |
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May-27-09
| | Eyal: Well, he dropped the line with d3 & g3 after his disastrous experience with it (at least against the Soviet players) in the 1959 candidates, but he kept employing the two knights occasionally – for example, in Fischer vs Keres, 1961 he tried 6.d4, and in Fischer vs S Kagan, 1968 7.a3 and 8.g4. Fischer actually never settled on a single "anti C-K" weapon (see
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...). According to a note in MSMG, one of the main reasons he liked the two knights is to exclude the possibility of Bf5 – after 1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Nf3, 3…dxe4 4.Nxe4 Bf5? 5.Ng3 Bg6 6.h4 h6 7.Ne5 is very bad for Black. |
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| Sep-01-09 | | meth0dSNK: 7.. Bg5
g3? |
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| Nov-08-09 | | Plato: <meth0dSNK: 7.. Bg5
g3?>
7.g3 is not a mistake and does not deserve a question mark (though it is not the preferred move anymore in that position). 7.Bg5 is not an improvement and might be inferior, as after 7...Bb4 Black is fine and White doesn't even have the response 8.Bd2 (as in the game) unless he wants to lose a tempo for nothing. |
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Jul-24-10
 | | technical draw: Yes, I believe this is the famous Fischer crying game. Keres himself had to console him by saying, "Bobby, I can win a game too!" And could anyone doubt that the winner of the famous 1938 AVRO tournament (ahead of Botvinnik, Alekhine and Capablanca) could win a game? |
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sac: 26...Nxf4
