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|Nov-09-10|| ||diceman: <sevenseaman: ...32. Qxf4+ is a superlative, thinking move; it brings in the bacon.>|
I like 47...Rg3!! much better.
It takes the squares away (from the king)
and opens the files to allow
|Nov-14-10|| ||Tigranny: Brilliant queen sacrifice by Tigran for Rh1 mate.|
|Jan-31-11|| ||Whitehat1963: Good Lord, there is so much subtle maneuvering here! Really hard to follow. One for Rybka 10 to analyze!|
|Jun-17-11|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: amazing counterattack !|
|Jun-30-11|| ||YetAnotherAmateur: On the question of refusing 47. ... Rg3!, one possible line might be: 48. Qd2 Nd3 49. Bxd3 exd3 50. hxg3 Rf3 51. Qh4 Qxd3 52. Qh2+ Kf1 53. Qh1+ Ke2 54. Qxg2+ Kd1 55. Qxb2 and it's curtains for white shortly thereafter.|
|Dec-29-11|| ||Mudphudder: Hard to believe Keres' allowed black's h-pawn to get as far as it did..|
|Dec-29-11|| ||SChesshevsky: It seems that Petrosian liked to play this defense. I think here Keres plays way to slowly from around 21.Rc2 to 27.Qh4, maybe he couldn't see a good plan.|
It seems White does better by opening lines up early like in the Petrosian dbase games against Reshko & Larsen.
I've been studying the Petrosian-Korchnoi 1974 match and especially liked
this Korchnoi vs Petrosian, 1974.
|Jan-07-12|| ||plang: Petrosian's patient back-rank maneuvering led him to take over the initiative with 27..f6, 28..e6 and 30..f5 although he created significant weaknesses in the process. |
Christiansen after 31..gxf:
"White has finally suceeded in creating some weaknesses in Black's pawn structure, although Black has potential counterplay along the g-line augmented by his well-placed bishop bearing down on the a1-h1 diagonal. With accurate play White should be able to slowly increase his advantage by keeping Black tied to the defense of the d6-pawn."
39..e4? was an uncharacteristic positional error by Petrosian; stronger was 39..Qh4 40 fxe..Rh6 41 Qg1..dxr 42 Rxd7..Ncd7 43 Nd5..Bxd5 44 Rxd5..Nf6 with a powerful attack. Perhaps 42 Nb5 would have been a better way for White to play the position. Also, 43 Ne2 with the idea of Ng3 would have been a possible improvement. Keres could have defended against the rook sacrifice with 47 Rfd2; after 47 b4? he was clearly worse. It was not obligatory for Keres to take the rook though after 48 Qe1..Nd3 he would have had a tough defense.
A beautiful if flawed game. Interesting that neither Clarke nor Kasparov included the game in their books on Petrosian.
|Jan-07-12|| ||SChesshevsky: <<39..e4? was an uncharacteristic positional error by Petrosian>>|
I think 39..e4 might have been a typical restraining move by Petrosian. As a protected passed pawn he keeps White always thinking about the blockade. 42..Qa8 makes the block even more necessary. Seemed to work OK as the white Q never moved after 38.Qe3.
As Petrosian often plays, only when he felt he had White pretty well restrained did he start pushing for an attack.
|Jan-07-12|| ||Penguincw: Tigran sure is a hard player to beat.|
|Apr-06-13|| ||RookFile: Paul Keres tied Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian 3 to 3, with 30 draws.|
|Apr-25-13|| ||Sem: Without any information I would not have thought that White was the great attacking player Paul Keres.|
|Jul-08-13|| ||leka: If the computer calculates Keres move 49.Rfd2?! only 0.27 pawn loss.Fischer did against Spassky in the Grunfeld defence 1966 or 1970 0.29-0.33 pawn error.But the top chess players today in The Tal Memorial and The Beijing 2013 todays top super gradmaster rating ove 2752 made much bigger mistakes than Keres or Fischer.I do not buy the idea that the old top players were weaker than today.The computer analysis these are two studies who made the fewest errors.J.R.Capablanca won fewest miskes ever.Another study shows that Fischer was the most error free player ever.But that study an error was calculeted if you lost 1.25 pawn.Losing 1.25 pawns is a huge mistake|
|Jul-08-13|| ||offramp: There is a Mount Rushmore quality to this game that only a small amount of chess games have (more than 4, though).|
|Jul-11-13|| ||chesswar1000: Many players know about Petrosian's strategic style, but few players know that he had a risky and dynamic style underneath.|
|Jul-11-13|| ||The17thPawn: At his best Tigran's raw calculating ability was absolutely staggering. We all know about his positional genius, but when he decided to be agressive he had the mental gymnastics to back up his play.|
|Oct-21-13|| ||lentil: Saber-toothed armadillo!|
|Jan-12-14|| ||KingPetrosian: Arbitrator, stop the game! Petrosian is using sorcery!|
|Aug-06-16|| ||dernier loup de T: After 51.Bh5 Petrossian could just announce mate in 52 moves; easy!|
|Aug-06-16|| ||ewan14: T V P. did well at the start of this candidates
Keene loves this game in
P v the Elite
I think Carlsen has a game similar to this
|Aug-06-16|| ||dernier loup de T: ewan14, I was just kidding, BUT: first, the position after the 50th move is really lost for White; and the other point is that 51.Kf1 is a terrible blunder, after what curtains, while after the sacrifice 51.Bh5! White could still offer a tough resistance, because the e2 case is now a salvation for the king in case of check on h1...|
|Aug-06-16|| ||ewan14: Is it Bh5 , black replies Nd3 ?|
|Sep-01-17|| ||tinnderbox: Unfortunately the final combination turns out to be incorrect. Instead of 50. Be2 Keres could have played 50. Nf3! There are no good queen moves. After 50 ... Qh5 51. Be2 the queen can no longer take on f4. 50. ... Qh6 runs into 51. Rxd6 Qxd6 52. bxc5.
But after 50. Nf3 exf3 51. gxf3 Rh7 52. Bg2 there is no mate and white is simply an exchange up and winning.|
|Sep-01-17|| ||beatgiant: <tinderbox>
On 50. Nf3 exf3 51. gxf3 Rh7 52. Bg2 <Re7> 53. Qd4 Re1+ 54. Bf1 Ne6, Black still has a good attack. So I doubt White is <simply> winning. What say you?
|Sep-02-17|| ||andrea volponi: A)50 Nf3 B)50 Be2 white loses final.to be analyzed 49 Rf3 Qh4 -Be2 with an approximately equal position( ⩱)|
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