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|Sep-24-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Gars,
it is possible that dodging prep was the other way around. Instead of Keres ducking Kholmov's homework, Kholmov ducked Kere's.
A few rounds earlier Kholmov played 1.e4 v Taimanov.
Kholmov vs Taimanov, 1959
Up till then and one game after Kholmov had opened 1.d4.
Keres would have looked at the Taimanov game just in case Kholmov played 1.e4 and thought he might improve on Black's play in that game and headed for it. Before this game Keres had been playing 1..e5 v 1.e4 (4 times)
Keres's prep got as far as 2..Nc6 when Kholmov possibly fearing some midnight oil by Keres was the first to deviate with 3.Bb5. a move he had only played once before in 1954. The rest as Kholmov states was made up at the board.
In his last Black in this tournament Keres again played a Sicilian. J Yuchtman vs Keres, 1959
Yuchtman played the 3.Bb5 line Keres replied 3...g6 instead of 3...Nf6.
3...Nf6 in the past has been given a '!' (Picket in his 1977 booklet on the opening.) though after 4.e4 best is deemed 4..Nd5.
|Sep-28-16|| ||OhioChessFan: Anyone else look at this and think Black ought to have played 3...Nh6 and saved 2 tempi?|
Travis Tritt-Call Someone Who Cares
|Sep-28-16|| ||newzild: Impressive!|
|Sep-28-16|| ||Pinkerton: I thought 15.Qf3 was to fork f6 and a8 squares. To pass up on that R is deep as fried. 16.Nd5 is like playing with house money.|
|Sep-28-16|| ||offramp: <Sally Simpson: Intend to note up this game elsewhere, came here to see if I can glean a snippet or two.
Mild surprise at the lack of interest, but that's not too uncommon if a super-duper big name is not the winner.|
Can use Miss S's contribution and maybe a few others.
A Russian Championship brilliancy prize winner and not a GOTD. Paramount pleads for it to be GOTD but appears not to have submitted it.
So I submitted it and after submission I was dumped onto the 'Puns Submission Page'.
Fearing that the GOTD would be ignored if no pun I came up with:
The Rat King Khol Mona Lisa.
Pitiful I know and I can already feel the flack from morfishine.
A pun is no good if it has to be explained but Kholmov says this was his favourite game and 'Mona Lisa' was a hit for Nat King Cole. It was a toss up between 'Mona Lisa' and 'Unforgettable' (Another famous NKC hit.) I went with Mona because of space restriction, I thought it would be too long.
It's probably been used before, I do not know, nor wish to know, how to check.>
Yeah. Er, back to the drawing board, Geoff.
|Sep-28-16|| ||gars: <Sally Simpson>: thank you very much for your most recent comment. It put my (old and lazy) brain spinning hard! Is there any book of Kholmov's best games?|
|Sep-28-16|| ||PawnSac: "But on the other hand, a major attacking principle is maintained--'the tempo.' The time that we don't have is more precious than the piece we do have." -- Tal|
|Sep-28-16|| ||kevin86: Keres is dusted!|
|Sep-28-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Gars,
It does not look as if there is book on his best games. A pity because he played many interesting hard fought games often sparkling with tactical ideas and sly shots.
Kholmov vs P Dely, 1959 is good. Kholmov hangs his Queen for a number of moves. (hurry before they fix it.)
(The pun is naff. Keres is pronounced CARE-ess)
|Sep-28-16|| ||hemy: <gars> I copied the book in Russian language (Чепижный - Ратмир Холмов) to the public folder of my dropbox (for limited time), so you can download it from the following link:
On the right top corner of the screen you will found "more" icon and then "download".|
|Sep-28-16|| ||posoo: DONT WOREY morfudlian, i got ur bak dis time:
"Dis is YET ANOTHEr horendus display of words dat only a HALFWIT MORON cod com up with. Da chusgums adminastrators should be ASHAMED of dis and they are DRIVING ME to want to tie a NOUSE around my NECK and swing while yelling PUN PUN PUN PUN PUN PUN. Da whole sistem of Games of da day with dese puns is a DISTRACE and i, for one, CANOT TAKE IT ANYMORE. Dos anyone have any ARSNIK?"
Posoo likes da pon.
|Sep-28-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hope you don't mind heny but I took a copy as well. This is in there (game 24, page 64). |
I'll get it printed out at work.
It's in the same format and style of the Russina book I have on Rashid Gibiatovich Nezhmetdinov
From the days when I use to get Russian Mags I know the Russian notation very well and can read enough of it to get a jist of what they are saying.
The Bio and all the none game stuff I'll get a Russian student, Edinburgh has 100's, to read it to me in a pub. I'll buy her (yes it will be a her.) a drink or two.
|Sep-28-16|| ||Annie K.: <Sally Simpson> I submitted the pronunciation audio files for the names of both Keres and Kholmov... and I also submitted this pun. And I've been sleeping pretty well, regardless. ;p|
<posoo> sometimes I like you... ;D
|Sep-28-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Annie,
You are obviously one of the cliché getting that pun added over my Rat King Khol one.
'Call Someone Who Cares?' Don't tell me you sleep well, that wee gem of creativity must have kept you up half the night.
It's naff and I want this site to have a 'Puns Off' option so I don't have to see any more of them.
Posoo...I like you all the time, not just sometimes.
|Sep-28-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hello,
I want to buy this book. I've googled about but no luck except one extremely expensive place and I'd prefer to buy it in Britain.
I did find out that some lad has one called Ratmir Holmov.
|Sep-28-16|| ||hemy: <Sally Simpson> one more book in the same format and style - "Александр Толуш" - Alexander Kazimirovich Tolush
You can download it as well
|Sep-28-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Hemy,
Thanks but the Kholmov I now in PDF will keep me busy in chess for quite a while.
The quest ATM is to get the Kholmov book in it's original format and maybe that one called Holmov.
|Sep-28-16|| ||posoo: da KH and da H are VERY DIFRENT depending on WAT U MAKE OF SIRILIC.|
For instance in da BROHER KARAMOZOV da spinster lady is either
u r making da old posoo BLUSH
Where is da pun police MorfudlOON?
|Sep-28-16|| ||hemy: Collection of the Ratmir Kholmov's games on ichessbase:
|Sep-28-16|| ||brankat: "K" in Kholmov is a "silent one. Like "K" in "Know" or "Knee".|
|Sep-29-16|| ||Sally Simpson: "K" in Kholmov is a "silent one. Like "K" in "Know" or "Knee".|
So his name is actually 'Nolmov'
Got it. Ratmir Nolmov.
|Sep-29-16|| ||perfidious: <Geoff> Not to mention Nasin, Nalilbeili and Nodos.|
|Sep-29-16|| ||Sally Simpson: If the Russian 'K' is silent then it's Arpov, Asperorv, Orchnoi and Ramnik.|
|Sep-29-16|| ||Retireborn: <Geoff> I assume you're joking (!), but Huzman and Kharitonov are examples of how the "Kh" can be transliterated differently.|
|Sep-29-16|| ||brankat: It is pronounced: HOLMOV.
No Arpov, Asparov, nor Ramnik.
It is only in "Kh" sequence that the "K" is a silent one, just like in English "Kn" combo.
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