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|Jan-29-06|| ||cornfused: My personal favorite King's Gambit book is Estrin's 1982 work: under the Muzio/Polerio section, it gives 11. Bxf4! as key to the whole 8. Bxf7 Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4 10. Be3 Qf6 line. Shirov was correct - and his opponent didn't screw up until 11... Ke8. 11...Ne7 was better, but even that doesn't totally save Black. Actually, Estrin's book rates the Double Muzio as at least equal for White.|
|Feb-04-06|| ||DeepBlade: Blacks main fault was 9. ...Qxd4, because it is the losing line, only way to survive it, is to be alive till the endgame. The Kingside pressure is far too strong for Black.|
|Aug-20-06|| ||Pepitin17: WOW great miniature|
|Aug-24-06|| ||Philidor: Such a beauty! Didn't Morphy die in 1884?|
|Oct-25-06|| ||netlava: 16. Bxc7+ Ke8 17. Qf8# would have looked cooler.|
|Oct-25-06|| ||TrueFiendish: Nah, better to sac the queen and mate with the weaker piece.|
|Nov-10-06|| ||popski: This game is really one of those 'must see' games. Amazing!!|
|Jan-24-07|| ||Rubenus: <TheGreatNN>
point 1: You meant Bxf7+
point 2: It is easy to defend (9...Qf5! and black is two pieces up).
point 3: Few people know that so it is still playable against weaker opponents.
|Feb-04-07|| ||WBP: I like the fact that Shirov plays the more aestheticly pleasing 17. Bxc7,mate, rather than the more obvious 17. Rxf8, Qe8, 18 R(either)xe8, mate.|
|Feb-11-07|| ||costachess: what about 15. ... Q x d6 ? can anyone reply this move?|
|Feb-12-07|| ||shalgo: <what about 15. ... Q x d6 ?>|
|Feb-27-07|| ||BDayton: According to Rybka 2.3, 11...Ke8 and 12...Nc6 gave back most of black's initiative. 14...Be7 blew the game wide open, however. Until move 11, black had a clear advantage.|
|Oct-30-07|| ||flipmo: what about 15 :c x d6?|
|Feb-01-08|| ||sambo: <what about 15 :c x d6?>|
16. Qf8#. The bishop is pinned.
What a fantastic game by Shirov. This is how you play the Muzio!
|May-22-08|| ||gambitking: This is my favourite opening and the one i do the best with. For an all out attacker, the moves of O-O! and BxP ch.!! are simply spectacular|
The Gambit King
|Dec-24-08|| ||WhiteRook48: wow people hardly do sacrifices like this anymore.
Sac of the f-pawn.
Sac of the f3-Knight.
Bishop sac on f7.
Queen sac on f8.
|Dec-31-08|| ||computer chess guy: <BDayton: According to Rybka 2.3, .. Until move 11, black had a clear advantage.>
I agree Black should have tried a developing move at this point instead of moving the King, but I see no decisive edge for him even with better play. You can't really trust computers very far in these gambit positions. They tend to over-value material vs. the development and attack potential that compensate for the gambit.|
|May-23-09|| ||shakespeare: wow - this is definitely Morphy like playing :-)|
|Jun-26-09|| ||GrahamClayton: <patzer2>Of course if 9. ..Qf5! is a forced win (as Fritz 8 analyzes) for black, this would be merely academic. |
Raymond Keene in the "Complete Book of Gambits" gives White an advantage after 9...f5 10.g4 g6 11.f4 f6 12.e5 d6 13.f6 g4 14.g2 g8 15.h1 f5 16.d5.
Can you post some of the Fritz 8 analysis?
|Jul-05-09|| ||Whitehat1963: Excellent Tuesday puzzle after 15...Kd8.|
|Aug-27-09|| ||kooley782: This game is amazing-Shirov plays like a romanticist. I mean, who ever plays the King's Gambit anymore? BTW King's Gambit is one of my favorite opening.|
|Aug-27-09|| ||Soinne: The real blunder is actually 12...Nc6, which allows white to almost equalize. Better was 12...Bc5+. However, the evaluation shifts towards white after: 13. Kh1 Ne7 14. Rae1. In every line, it seems black is punished for underdevelopment.|
|Aug-27-09|| ||KingG: This was possibly my favourite game when I started playing chess seriously. Influenced by games like these and those of Anderssen and Morphy, I also played the King's Gambit all the time, and always tried to sacrifice on f7, whether or not it was sound. Although to be honest in those days, I could barely calculate anything, so I had no way of knowing if a sacrifice was sound or not.|
However, as beautiful as this game is, I have often wondered whether or not it is real. Shirov has very little record of playing the King's Gambit, and it seems odd that in one of the few games he has in the opening, he plays such a perfect game. This line of the Muzio has been known for a long time, and I wouldn't be surprised if this whole game hadn't already been printed as analysis somewhere. Not only that, but the refutation(which has been mentioned in an earlier post) to the Muzio has also been known for a long time, so it's not only strange that Black should play this line, but also White.
It's also worth noting that Shirov didn't include this game in his book Fire on the Board. Has he ever annotated this game elsewhere?
|Mar-17-10|| ||Phony Benoni: Yes, there's no doubt about it. Defensive technique has improved to the point that these 19th century gambits are no longer playable.|
|Mar-17-10|| ||hedgeh0g: <Yes, there's no doubt about it. Defensive technique has improved to the point that these 19th century gambits are no longer playable.>|
Kasparov vs Anand, 1995
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